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ReplyDeleteI hope you are trying to be funny. What a waste of time.
DeleteNot real sharp are you?
DeleteNo, I am not sharp. Explain the point please.
DeleteGood show. I was very dismayed to hear about Mike Piper, who have, to this point, had a lot of respect for and had been a fan of his work on JFK. Certainly, given his background and body of work, he isn't a Zionist agent, but his take on Sandy Hook is baffling. I look forward to hearing his response to Jim's communication and it would be great if Mike chose to come on the show and give his viewpoints.
ReplyDeleteMaybe this has something to do with it:
ReplyDeleteMike Piper’s “False Flags” eBook Available For Free | American Free Press
http://americanfreepress.com/
Thanks Joan, I'll checkt hat out.
ReplyDeleteIt's 28 dollars from their shop, I couldn't find a free ebook version:
ReplyDeletehttp://shop.americanfreepress.net/store/p/587-FALSE-FLAGS-Template-for-Terror.html
Found the free version, already begun reading, pretty interesting so far:
ReplyDeletehttp://americanfreepress.net/?p=14254&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=mike-pipers-false-flags-ebook-available-for-free
My spidey sense tells me piper has a case of sour grapes that there are so many independent lay investigators out there. Sandy hook was probably the biggest example of the Everyman doing their own research and being able to throw it up on YouTube.
ReplyDeleteI wished I had thought to count the dozens of times Fetzer used the word 'ridicules' in these interviews. Fetzer's emotional presentation is quite striking set against Tracy's cool calm demeanor.
ReplyDeleteFetz take a pill. PLS!!
No, don't change Mr. Fetzer! Your emotionality in no way detracts from your rationality. Tracy's dead-pan delivery would have caused me to slit my wrists otherwise...
DeleteYes, I love the Fetz's canned phrases that he repeats verbatim each show about JFK, 9/11, or Sandy Hook. It reveals the genius within. I know. There is not always the same people listening to the show. So no one will notice.
DeleteIt is operative conditioning! The media spectacular provides the false catharsis. People are shamed into watching it and modeling. Just as Sofia states. The attack is always psychological.
ReplyDeleteThe poem below explains it in context:
Adam Lanza mystery
Cub scouting at only three,
"Ryan's" younger brother "was"
A murderer with no because.
Shot and killed mom in the face,
Travelled to her non-workplace
Shot a bunch of people dead.
No survivors so they said.
Paramedics at the scene
Not allowed to intervene.
One of many lonely nuts,
Carnage without blood and guts,
No good friends, no clubs, no teams,
Very little presence seems.
Broke inside with guns a blaze
In a highly focussed haze
Due to violent gaming
Remarkable his aiming.
Built an air of mystery
Missing on line history.
Nothing to investigate,
Off to court to legislate
Medications, guns, and thrills,
Blame it on or take some pills.
Never leave us standing still
Dialectic take your fill.
Media spectacular
Unable to go too far.
Characters from stage and screen
Take their place inside the meme.
Giving people what they want,
False cathartic burp and grunt.
Interesting interview. I thought I would weigh in here and say something.
ReplyDeleteFrom Brendan Hunt to Sofia Smallstorm to James Tracy to James Fetzer, we have an over-the-top presentation of researched information on the Sandy event. It never ceases to amaze me that we have people still who will not do a little research/reading/watching ON THE INTERNET when a major event occurs. I know this is so from having taken online courses and read some of the inane comments that show some people have no clue what a police state the U.S. is. Some of them are hardcore ex-military. Well, having said that, trolls can be anywhere, but they most certainly aren’t all that in any given class situation.
So this begs the issue once again to bring to the fore the understanding that we are a media/mind controlled society. The little sound bites that tell us what to think on the boob tube and the media prints that leave their besmirched instance of a “news” story remind us of the unreality we still have to deal with because of those who help maintain the illusion by believing the lies delivered through a more convenient medium. All hail to the overpaid newscasters and their continued denigration of a society at the cost of the god almighty worthless dollar. I wonder how many people believe the lady at the capitol building really needed to be executed when a zillion cops couldn’t get her out of her car whether she was armed or not. Then of course, we had the Congress critters giving them a standing ovation.
A society depraved is a society deprived. Deprived of an understanding that when the principles of integrity and critical thinking are embraced by a society and its people reared under such an environment, they will hold an understanding that a society can truly evolve. The lack of ability to question is one of the biggest reasons why we don’t.
Another thing I’d like to mention regards the three events of Aurora, CO, Wisconsin, and Connecticut. Someone put it out on the net that there was a banking connection to all of these. Regardless of whatever else may have been in the agenda kettle, this may also have been true. In the case of Colorado and Wisconsin, I believe there were hit squads that carried out executions. Having listened to police recordings and witness statements this would appear to be the case. I guess they decided to change their modus operandi in regard to Connecticut. Nonetheless, they left a trail an elephant could have made.
Sorry for the long post. I enjoy your work Dr. Fetzer.
Thanks for your statement. Some excellent points. You don't have to tell me what a police state the U.S. is. I've been following the trail of evidence that leads from Hitler's bunker to the major corporations and government institutions.
Deletehttp://www.maebrussell.com/Audio/Merrill%20College%20Lecture.html
« Pendant des périodes de tromperie universelle, dire la vérité devient un acte révolutionnaire. »
ReplyDeleteGeorge Orwell
Apparently, Orwell wasn't the author of the quotation, although it's commonly attributed to him. It may, in fact, have originated with the Italian communist Antonio Gramsci. See this.
DeleteI wrote a post about this issue here: Sandy Hook – Hoax or Fact? Tracy, Smallstorm, & Fetzer vs. Michael Collins Piper - http://wp.me/pPnn7-2xR
ReplyDeleteUne très bonne pièce de travail pour un « hobbyiste ».
DeleteLots and lots of bizarre things going on with the Sandy Hook thing.
ReplyDeleteA woman, supposedly the mother of SH School student, Ella Seaver, appeared in an ABC interview days after the alleged shooting. This woman is an absolute dead ringer for B horror movie actress Debbie Rochon, who appeared in the low budget horror flick - now get this - "The Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre" Type this link into Google to see images of the woman from the ABC interview alongside the photo of Rochon that appears on her IMDB web page. They are pictures of the same woman. All the facial features match - jawline, chin, brow, eyes, etc.
Also check out a YouTube video called "Several Sandy Hook Players Are Literally Actors" A Newtown resident named Nick Phelps did a CNN interview in which he attempted to force crocodile tears. Turns out he is also an actor, who even appeared alongside Michael J. Fox in his show Spin City. He also is listed on the IMDb web site.
Alleged grieving parents David and Francine Wheeler also have acting backgrounds. David appeared in a low budget anti-gun themed movie, and Francine did a voice over in a very strange animated cartoon porno movie entitled Mutant Aliens, or something to that effect. She was also personal assistant to Democratic National Committee chairwoman Maureen White, who spent a night in the Lincoln bedroom under special invitation of Bill Clinton.
This is all a bit too much. Something stinks real bad about this whole thing.
Here is the link to the Debbie Rochon/Ella Seaver mother photo comparison cited above. Tell me this is not the same woman in each picture -
ReplyDeletehttp://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt203/retklb2009/sidebysideellaseaveracressrochon_zps05b7bbe4.png
It does all stink bad Brian.
ReplyDeleteThat does look like the same woman, distinctive jawline.
Judging by the surge in gun and ammo sales, a lot of people didn't buy into the official story.
Glad you see the resemblance too, so I know I'm not completely crazy. There seems to be a strange connection here between the lower echelons of the movie and TV world of aspiring actors and the spook aspects of this supposed Sandy Hook shooting. There are lots of strange things going on here. It's a psych-warfare operation, no doubt about that.
ReplyDeleteI agree, I've seen some other info in the past identifying some people from Sandy Hook as actors. This woman, Victoria Adriana Munoz has appeared at Sandy Hook, Boston and elsewhere.
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjdP-g0Z_r0
Crisis Actors, it's a rapidly growing profession it seems.
En ce qui concerne la chorale des enfants de Sandy Hook. Je pense qu'il y a seulement un petit nombre d'acteurs sont dans le réel « savoir ». Les autres sont tout simplement des volontaires pour le « exercice ». C'est pour cette raison les morts sont vivants.
ReplyDeleteFor anyone interested, here are some good YouTub vids dealing with this topic:
ReplyDelete"Gabby Giffords Hoax - Faking A Speech Impediment for Gun Control" by Paulstalservice -
http://youtu.be/2kMuzy_4eIs
Yes, I do indeed believe Giffords and her NASA employed husband are faking this.
"Sandy Hook HOAX:You're Getting Very Sleepy" by TheRicoman1973 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cat_DawqjH8&feature=share&list=UUYwm-LYr5ZbPJhVF9PHBELA&index=2
Another aspiring performer (jazz musician) mouthing a scripted monologue.
"Sandy Hook HOAX:This INFURIATES Me!"
http://youtu.be/hzRgLcyto_0
The lady in this CNN interview looks like she couldn't be more elated one month after the tragic murder of her six year old girl. Who in the world acts like this?
I watched the totally non-credible interviews with those parents, 15, 16, 17, 18 Dec, and after that it was impossible to make myself believe that there could be any real victims in that story or media operation, because the parents that had their kids shot in the head a few days earlier, was obviously, and for sure, only some D rated soap opera actors. Knew and understood that the rest of the story was just another Hollywood horror movie script on "live news".
DeleteMichael Schumacher, septuple champion du monde de Formule 1, a été victime d’un grave accident de ski dimanche. Le pilote allemand, touché à la tête, il a été opéré en urgence à l'hôpital de Grenoble mais reste dans un état critique. « Il souffrait d'un traumatisme crânien grave avec coma à son arrivée, qui a nécessité immédiatement une intervention neurochirurgicale, » explique le communiqué du CHU, qui confirme par ailleurs qu'il reste dans « un état critique. »
DeleteMichael Schumacher, 45 ans, skiait en hors piste avec son fils de 14 ans quand l’accident est survenu, peu après.
the only real question left to be asked regarding sandyhoax is why has it been so sloppily and deliberately badly faked. is it to further divide the 'dangerous' conspiracy theorists from their 'unquestioning' friends, family and society, thus ostracising and eliminating these threats to the implementation of their 'new world order', or is it something else entirely?
ReplyDeletei think it is something else entirely. when can a large hurricane and a small-storm be considered equivalent? the answer is when one is lead to believe one is the other.
when the calm is restored/revealed, a very valuable but relatively cheap lesson is learned.
you don't poke a slumbering tiger with a sharp stick. any fool knows that. and we are not dealing with fools in this game.
so who and what exactly are we dealing with?
and i'm sure this has been mentioned before but james tracy doesn't half sound like Gordon duff at times.
myself, i have long since given up believing in strange co-incidences.
having said all that, i now think micron nukes did sandyhook. anyone who says differently is a paid A.W.O.L. shilly jew muppet puppet agent. full stop.
Do you think the Earth is round or flat Peter?
DeleteI started reading Michael Collins Piper's False Flags: Template for Terror. After having read his forewords and skimming through the book, I find nothing about the book that would disabuse me of the impression that it was written to direct our eyes toward the Israeli establishment as the sole and final source of the assassinations of American leaders and of every major false-flag event of the past half-century. The vision Piper paints for us there is so focused through horse-blinders that it's stunning! It's a typical Libertarian propaganda piece designed to focus all our attention onto one of the trees of the transnational fascist cabal and distract us from the forest. The Israeli component will continue loyally to fulfill its role as a partner while ignoring the antisemitic statements made by U.S. military officials (some of whom Piper quotes) in the interest of fascist unity. It will take outsiders to point out that the leading circles of the U.S. military have been a hangout for virulent antisemites and outright fascists for a very long time indeed.
ReplyDeletePiper's statement that analysis of events should be left to the "experts" is a tellingly undemocratic statement. Perhaps the influence of one or another of Robert Welch's John Birch Society (JBS) disciples. The American public has been under the influence of the many National Association of Manufacturer (NAM) propaganda spin-offs (prominent among them the JBS) for so long that Americans think it's synonymous with patriotism. Here's a quote I know the source of (namely The German Ideology): "The ruling ideas of a society in every epoch are the ideas of its ruling class." --Karl Marx This includes, of course, its dominant propaganda on many levels -- always at an official, public one and inevitably at several deeper ones.
Role of the JBS in the JFK Assassination
Why does Piper reject the thesis that Sandy Hook was a hoax? Simple. He doesn't have a second level of the cover-up to roost on that fits his agenda or the agenda of those who influence him.
Bill,
DeleteI see you're over at the Fakeologist's site quite a bit. A few questions for you:
1. Is the Earth round or flat?
2. Can rockets travel into space?
3. Do man made satellites orbit the Earth?
4. Do nuclear weapons exist?
Appeal to Authority?
DeleteUnless we experience something directly. Isn't everything else indulging in the fallacy?
We may know things. It is only when we experience it and have the realization. That it becomes knowledge. Hence, wisdom which we can act upon.
Where I am off base here?
The question Shack and others seem to be making in my mind. Do we dare to question what we know? VS. what we actually experience.
e.g. I am a guitarist. I know a whole lot of music theory. But until I experience hearing that music theory applied and can utilize it in my playing. An experience it's effects.
I am going on faith to believe that any theory is applicable.
To me Shack, OBF, Fetzer, Fox. Speaking are on ego trips. Stop the name calling. You shill. No you are the shill. My sense is we all need to agree to disagree. I see you folks as being only minor degrees apart from one another. Stop Whining!!!!
Wow, what wonderful insight you bring.
DeleteI think I listening too. MORE WHINING!!
You know it or you don't. Set in Stone I guess.
Cheers Paul.
" I think you whining too, señor."
DeleteDo you speak or write English?
WHINER!!!
Piper and Glenn together were partly turned off the Sandy Hook issue by the excesses of Dr K. and Veterans Today as they totally without evidence started blaming 'Zionists'.
ReplyDeleteFor guys like Piper and Glenn whose main focus is Jewish and Israeli crimes and subversion, such outlandish and unhelpful claims were something they really couldn't be associated with.
This ought to be a wake-up call for Fetzer. If Piper is turned off by absurd and even criminal headlines like 'Mossad death squads slaughtered American children at Sandy Hook' - when there's no evidence at all for Israeli involvement, then how will the ordinary 'man in the street' react?
Just the same? -- that's the plan, anyway.
That's why Duff wants Fetzer posting at VT, where sensible and rational analysis of important subjects pertaining to Jewish and Israeli subversion, can be made to seem kooky by Duff and Dean's inserting horror-comic headlines or just burying the stuff under alien-Jesuit-Nazi nonsense.
Correct, Gordon Duffs job is to throw shit on truth so nobody will touch it.
DeletePiper still has Oswald on the TSBD 6th floor loosing off a "fake" shot. For that reason Piper cannot be taken seriously. Since there is not a shred of credible and conclusive evidence that Oswald was even on the 6th floor of the TSBD when shots (fake or otherwise) were allegedly fired from the so-called sniper's nest.
ReplyDeleteSylvia Meagher
Deletein her famous &
exhaustive
book states that
the "evidence" for LHO's presence on the TSBD sixth floor is the LEAST convincing of all the "evidence" dished out
by the Warren Commision in its so-called WC "Report" on the assassination of JFK.
I really wish Professor Fetzer
would do a 2-hour special on
all the "evidence" for LHO's
"presence" on the TSBD 6th floor. There is simply NO credible and unassailable evidence for Oswald's being on the sixth floor at the material time.
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ReplyDeleteCNN video of police charge at Sandy Hook is not Sandy Hook
ReplyDeletehttp://www.digitaljournal.com/article/341776#ixzz2p6mV5WhG
La vidéo de CNN qui prétend montrer la charge de police à Sandy Hook n'est pas effectivement à Sandy Hook.
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ReplyDeleteIan Greenhalgh:
ReplyDeleteThe reaction of MICHAEL COLLINS PIPER to Sandy Hook "no-one died" is the same outrage (and he states it) as to the 9/11 "no-one died" point of view.
The fact is that in both cases, the positions are basically correct (one or both could be incorrect, were there not evidence for them); though for 9/11, the evidence is not quite that no-one died, but that some hundreds did, not 3,000.
The irony is that on the last show's thread, you have (mistakenly) dismissed all information from Sept Clues and LetsRollForums on the issue of the victims, just as Piper has here, adding Sandy Hook, in his case;
it is actually more accurate to say, regarding Sept Clues and LetsRollForums, that they become not only wild in their hypotheses about victims (which would not mean untrue hypotheses, necessarily), but uncareful in the end to string together the evidence of true fakes and many probable fakes in the record, to mean absolutely all are fakes.
It is more likely that the numbers were pre-planned to be bloated, conveniently around Pearl Harbor numbers.
Hi Clare
ReplyDeleteI can sort of see the parallels between Piper's take on Sandy Hook and my take on the no victim's of 9/11.
However, there is a very key difference - I don't think Piper is is working to a hidden nefarious agenda, he's a serious investigative journalist and researcher, whereas I have a very different opinion of Shack et al.
There may be (and likely are) some grains of truth in the claims of Shack et al re. no victims, but if you look at their 'Vicsim's Report' as a whole, it's ludicrous. A few grains of truth mixed into a mass of BS perhaps.
Another key difference is that Piper doesn't devote large amounts of time and energy into attacking other researchers, whereas Shack et al do. This fact alone is enough to make me highly suspicious of them.
If they are not agents, then what is their rationale for their attacks on others? The points on which they seem to be most keen to attack people are the use of nukes, the death toll and the involvement of Israel. If you were one of the perpetrators of this heinous crime then wouldn't you want to convince people that you didn't use a weapon of mass destruction to slaughter thousands of innocents? Shack's theory that we were shown a movie while they used military grade smoke generators to cover the demolition with dynamite of two empty towers, killing no-one, is precisely the sort of false notion the perpetrators would love to implant in the public conscience.
Finally, I really think we are wasting time and effort debating Shack et al, I think it would be far better to ignore them and do our own research, let them attack us, let them promote their lunatic theories, but don't let them mire us down in their game.
There are way too many valid pieces of info that point to there having been many victims of 9/11, not just those killed on the day in the buildings, but the many subsequent deaths from cancers and other illnesses.
I would like to do my own research into the victims issue, but I don't propose to start by picking through the Shack et al Vicsim BS trying to pick out the few grains of truth, that would be a very inefficient way to approach things and laden with difficulties that could be avoided with a different approach.
While I am very sure that there were many 'faked' aspects of 9/11, I most certainly do not intend to fall into the trap of thinking it is all faked.
Anyways, I've devoted too much time and effort already into Shack et al, it's time for me to ignore them and get on with my own work. If they chose to attack me then I will merely see that as an indicator I'm making progress in a useful direction.
"I most certainly do not intend to fall into the trap of thinking it is all faked."
DeleteWhat if your researc h leads you in the direction of everything being faked. Are you willing to admit to your blind spot?
IMO, both sides are displaying an air arrogance and disrespect for each others efforts.
We need a respectful debate!! With a mutual monitor.
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DeleteSandy Hook was a smallstorm.
ReplyDeleteThe WTC towers were demolished in a controlled demolition.
ReplyDeleteSo, according to the experts, in order to safely demolish a building with implosion techniques, everything including non-bearing walls must be removed.
WHY ON EARTH THEN, WOULD THEY HAVE 3000 PEOPLE--WHO COULD EASILY EVACUATE THE SCENE--REMAIN IN A BUILDING IMPAIRING ITS SUCCESSFUL DEMOLITION ?
http://letsrollforums.com/9-11-truth-movement-t24752.html
Mass Murder, the Ruling Class, and Political Power:
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A mass murder of 3000 fellow Americans is a plan, which if carried out, could and would have huge risk, both operationally and politically. Anything that can go wrong, could and probably would.
There also would be a huge unforeseen ripple effect among the population. Unforeseen being the key word. Not knowable equates to possible lack of control. Lack of control is not something the Ruling class are about.
......Which is the crazier idea? That George Bush, Larry Silverstein, Rudi Guliani, and hundreds, and probably thousands of others, particpated in a plan to knowingly commit the mass murder of 3000 people?
Or, the idea that that George Bush, Larry Silverstein and Rudi Guliani and hundreds, and probably thousands of others, participated in a massive hoax with the illusion of 3000 murdered?
The former theory is that supported by every card carrying member of the 911 truth movement. .... As a matter of fact, it is actually a tenet of faith of the 911 truth movement, that you not only embrace the ridiculous theory that the day was a day of mass murder, but that you not deviate from this, even .0033%. Or what amounts to one victim.........
Consider this if you will. In a day which claimed 3000 American lives, what death did you see? What death did you witness? None. Only that of the jumpers, and no examination was ever possible of remains. Again, the only death we saw on a day which claimed thousands, is that.
So, according to the experts, in order to safely demolish a building with implosion techniques, everything including non-bearing walls must be removed.
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IF 3000 PEOPLE HAD BEEN IN THE WTC WHEN IT WAS DEMOLISHED, THEY WOULD HAVE BECOME FLYING PROJECTILES. THE SAME GOES FOR ALL THE FURNITURE, FIXTURES, ELECTRIC AND PLUMBING MATERIALS--NO WONDER THE LIGHTS WERE OFF IN THE TOWERS.
TO THOSE WHO THINK NUCLEAR BOMBS WERE USED IN ORDER TO VAPORIZE 3000 PEOPLE, THINK AGAIN HOW FOOLISH THAT IS. THE ULTRA WEALTHY DON'T WASTE MONEY ON NUCLEAR WHEN THEY CAN USED CONVENTIONAL METHODS.
THINK OF ALL THE SCRAP METAL THAT WAS SOLD CHEAP TO THE MAFIA IN NEW JERSEY WHICH THEY RESOLD AT A HUGE PROFIT, AND THE CORE BEAMS LYING IN AN AIRPLANE HANGAR AT JFK, AND THE BEAMS USED IN MEMORIALS AROUND THE COUNTRY. WEREN'T THESE "TURNED TO DUST"? GO TO YOU TUBE AND VIEW SOME CONVENTIONAL DEMOLITIONS AND SEE HOW MUCH DUST A THIRTY STORY BUILDING MAKES!
P.S.
ReplyDeleteWhich is easier, faking a two hour video or killing 3000 people by vaporizing them with a nuclear device?
Which is easier, faking photographs and hiring actors to play witnesses or blowing up buildings and making the public believe planes did it? You'd have to have those holograms working flawlessly from every possible angle. Or, you could have FEMA or FBI tell people to evacuate the area as part of a drill and even give them a fictitious role to play and shh....."It's top secret!," demolish those white elephant asbestos-laden towers and just SAY terrorists did it?