Wednesday, October 29, 2014
James Fetzer / JFK Show #33 (w/ Gary King)
JFK (w/ Tom & Tommy) / Elite JFK researchers James Norwood and Larry Rivera
talk about JFK in the classroom, The 6th Floor Disinformation Museum in the TSBD.
Also discussed are similar assassinations as far back as Julius Caesar.
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Addressing only first half of the show: Jim, I love you, and your info dumps are perfect except in instances when you meet a wise and well read student of geo-politics, in which case I think it would be better to pivot into a conversational mode, and not a pundit mode. You say you had never heard about the Crown agents or their involvement? I have to disagree in that you seem to be on terra incognita when the material addresses the true nature of the deep state. Lyndon LaRouche and his organization has been saying this for years, and Final Judgement speaks to Bloomfield's involvement as its centerpiece. I actually think this man you spoke with had a deeper understanding of the Forrest, and you just wanted to unload on the same trees monologue. It's more Dealey Plaza arithmetic and no calculus involving free-masonic deep structures. And if you look into the history as this man did, you will see everything he said is true. And it's also true for the 911 and BBC connections. Even Fletcher Prouty spoke on this issue. If you can't take into account freemasonry, you will not understand what is meant when they say the Anerican president is way down on the totem pole of power. Scottish Rite freemasonry takes its orders from another body at its highest levels. And I would strongly recommend you look into the areas of JFK you typically avoid. You are great on the details, but we also hunger for big picture understandings. An international body exists, and it is a secret team that has infiltrated the government, but not the government or CIA as Prouty made very explicit. Look into Dulles and the bigger picture. Granted there is not a light to illuminate the way, but that is for a reason. Carol Quigley spoke of this explicitly, stating an Anglophioe network does exist. Where do you think it all happens with Libor and gold fixing? It is naive to say you have never heard of anything like thi. You are thinking in terms of nation state topologies and not thinking of the true nature of power and horizontal networks. Who has always run the drug trade from the Opium wars? Why are the ISIS bad guys in British accents as you say? Why is Bloomfield's materials being suppressed although it was supposed to be released already? Why was the Pentagon inaugurated on 911? What does it mean that FDR was a 33rd mason who built the Pentagon many years before the war in anticipation of it? Whether you call it ISRAEL or go to the greater body of which Wall Street is but a satellite, the connectins are all international in scope. I also think you neglect the NASA connections and the deep connections to NATO and the prime movers behind these issues. I suggest going to abeldanger.net to get a little fleshing out n this, because it connects all the dots you discuss, even the Bestles my friend. If Americans think the US is a sovereign body in a vacuum, I have bad news: thete exusts a oligarchical structure that zoo well wrote about(which he called after England, not Germany ir the USSR.). The footprints are there; from Lincoln onward. You do recall England fought against the union, and Pike -- despite being a traitor -- is buried in the temple in DC and hs statue presides over that city, the New Jerusalem. The Pentagon is built according to the degree material laid out in the 33rd degree, called the "Defense of the Realm," and it was modeked after Stonehenge, though 25 times scale. All of this is true. Please understand there is a reason why all the media went with the cover-up. Lyndon may have been key indeed, but the corporate state has been laid out much earlier. The greatest world wars operated by the power f this group. Germany tried to fight this group and when they lost what happened to our country?
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Europe (through Canada & Usa) would be involved.
DeleteI beg you to try and invite Joseph Farrell (gizadeathstar.com) on your show as he will really agree with you on your key points but will expand your horizons as to the deeper structures that took shape after the war, including the vast hidden financial complex and breakaway government. I call out Black Op for not having certain views, so I am begging you to look deeply into this area, and particularly NATO, NASA, Bilderberg, etc.
ReplyDeleteGood idea, as long as he keeps Farrell to his best work, not his more recent sometimes less careful ramblings on "transhumanism", a catch-all term in some ways, or his refusal to handle possibility of alien-info & just deal w/ UFO lights, technology.
DeleteYou are the best, Jim at being intellectually honest and open-minded. Just be cautious of ever havingJFK in your back pocket, because that dogma will fill your cup, obscuring other paradigms, filtering out other meaningful ways to construct the narrative.
ReplyDeleteI can see your point: it can be too limited to see only how it played out for JFK & not see intel-cultic roots around some players.
DeleteGreat job Gary as usual.
ReplyDeleteThe guest mentioned an interesting idea about the British Crown being responsible for the JFK assassination. I don't know how much truth there is to that but it made me think that the British Empire maybe just "moved" to the United States. And the British Empire could in turn be an "offspring" of the Vatican or something like that. Just speculating wildly here, but anyway. :D
ReplyDelete@apsterian I doubt that the Vatican is owned by the Rothschilds. However, Christianity seems to be an invention based on previous ancient religions, including Judaism. So I guess some Jewish powers were involved in establishing Christianity, but the core seems to be older than that, stretching back to ancient Egypt at least. Something like Babylon/Sumer/Egypt -> Judaism -> Catholicism -> Islam and later Protestantism. The Jesuits probably believe they have control over China. Ha ha. Ho ho ho. What a mistake. The Chinese powers have fooled the western powers thoroughly. For example the Art of War is a propaganda hit piece. And the Chinese bought opium just to fool the western powers and so on. China in conflict with Japan? Guess again.
DeleteI'm not very religious but I like the Omega Point theory (by a Jesuit b.t.w. :D). It fits with the idea of the Big Bang as a white hole of a black hole in a parent universe. And it's holistic. I'm sure it's possible to cram basically all religions - and all of science - into the Omega Point theory. Amen. As for Christianity, I like the part: thy kingdom come ON EARTH as it is in heaven. Matthew something. And in Revelation 21: And I saw a NEW EARTH ... with no more death or suffering. Extropy a la Kevin Kelly in action.
Delete"British Empire" included old intel-cultic-elitists of Britain & Europe, but also UK banking interests (incl. Zionist Rothschild connections).
DeleteGary,
ReplyDeleteAnother great show under your belt!
Keep 'em coming, Gary!
appollonian
ReplyDeleteFebruary 22, 2012 at 1:56 PM
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(b) I can't get a line space btwn the paragraphs
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I AM CONSIDERING BANNING APSTERIAN. He is so repetitious and seldom addresses the content of the shows. I think it is past time for him to identify himself by his real name, his background and his education. Would anyone object if I were to block him from posting?
ReplyDeleteJim,
ReplyDeleteI think you should take "Qui tacet consentire videtur" as the only
possible answer to your question above.
Velis et remis!!
Vale
Jim FetzerNovember 7, 2014 at 3:00 PM
ReplyDeleteI AM CONSIDERING BANNING APSTERIAN. He is so repetitious and seldom addresses the content of the shows. I think it is past time for him to identify himself by his real name, his background and his education. Would anyone object if I were to block him from posting?
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"Object"? are you kidding? Most have stopped posting and visiting the site. This poster is out of his mind. I'd like to know who he is. I've been thinking philosophy 101 student. "Repetitious" is right on.
"Ho ho ho" - a laugh that Allen Dulles was known for. Is this "apsterian" a cog-bot uploaded from the preserved brain of Allen Dulles?
DeleteRegarding Tom's discussion of the British Royal's role in all of this. I couldn't agree more.
ReplyDeleteConsider that the mess that is today's Middle East would never have happened - or at least it wouldn't be quite as big a mess - were it not for the Balfour Declaration, and for Truman's succumbing to British pressure to give the green light for the founding of the state of Israel.
Also, isn't it quite obvious? What came on the heels of the Kennedy assassination, in February 1964, but The Beatles on Ed Sullivan, and the subsequent "British Invasion".
Regarding Obama's roots, he was indeed born a British subject whether or not he was born in Kenya, insofar as the "subjecthood" extended from father to son.
Moreover, looking at the compromise of his passport records in early 2008 by a contractor with The Analysis Corporation (-TAC, then run by John Brennan, current DCI), we find that TAC was at the time a subsidiary of a British company: GLOBAL. Indeed, then, Obama remains quite "subject" to the dictates of his British masters, insofar as they hold the citizenship records that, if disclosed, could end his presidency, as we discovered in June 2011... http://wxxxnews.blogspot.com/2011_06_01_archive.html
PS. Oh, I forgot to throw in the Federal Reserve.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the show. & Yes, Jim, you've heard of crown agents, Montrealer Canadians for Bronfman, international Banking (incl. Jewish syndicate), P2 Lodge, etc. The assassination would have connected to Europe (as Tarpley but so many others have pointed out).
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