Wednesday, November 20, 2013

Gary Leuchs / Jim Fetzer

Secret Service driver Sam Kinney / Jim on JFK and the latest disinformation

14 comments:

  1. "The assassination of JFK was a performance of the occult ritual called The Killing of the King, designed as a mass-trauma, mind-control assault against the national body-politic of the United States."

    James Shelby Downard, King Kill 33, 1987


    http://www.nachtkabarett.com/KennedyKingKill33

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    1. They were talking about that on Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis tonight

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  2. Moral question. If your country is going Nazi, and the military is the first to go. If you think that patriotism is obeying the orders of your superiors. If everyone you look up to believes that your country's enemy deceitfully masks its aggressive attacks on peaceful countries and even has whole armies of infiltrators within your own. If the White House is taken over by an agent of that same enemy power. If everyone you look up to believes that no deed is too dastardly in defense of a myth called "freedom". If you're asked to participate in a patriotic conspiracy. Then, if you take part in the assassination of the President, whether you're actually in the loop or not, are you guilty? Is Lee Harvey Oswald guilty? It's not a simple question.

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  3. The Nazis are coming!!!! The Nazis are coming!!!! How much does foxman pay you each time you type Nazi?

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  4. Good show.

    I do have one question. Jim, you often state that one of the shooters pulled a shot because they were under strict order not to hurt Jackie. But, you also stated in this interview that one shooter was aiming at the President, and hit him once, with the extremely inaccurate Italian rifle. Well, if so, then clearly Jackie could have been hit. There were, according to your analysis, bullets missing and flying around. So how strict could these orders have been. I do not doubt the possibility that they were trying/hoping to avoid hitting Jackie, but it seems that according to your own analysis, which I do not doubt, there were certainly taking a serious chance of hitting her.

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  5. Well, I think it was a CERTAINTY that Jackie would be hit had he taken the shot from the grassy knoll. It appears to have been ONLY A POSSIBILITY that she would have been hit by one of the shots fired from the Dal-Tex. What more can I tell you? That's my take.

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    1. Fair enough. It makes sense that they would try to avoid hitting Jackie, while realizing that they might. I have another question:

      Had any shots been fired BEFORE Greer slowed the car down to a stop? What was the timing here, and his possible instructions, or signal?

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  6. what a great strategy to avoid hurting Jackie - throw seven bullets (is that the # now?) into the car from various directions and hope for the best! - bullshit. it's all bullshit. JFk's assassination was faked and this has now been proven beyond all reasonable doubt.
    http://letsrollforums.com/showpost.php?p=225299&postcount=238
    your continuing silence regarding Culto's research is deafening jim, and tells me all I need to know. you can't even afford to even broach the idea, can you? for fear of the can of worms it would open up! orders are orders, I am guessing.
    here's hoping you can keep 'em spinning for another 50 years, eh jim?

    ATTENTION!!! MARCH LEFT! MARCH LEFT! MARCH LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT!!!

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    1. Pshea, I think existence itself is faked. As John Lennon sings in a tune Jim often plays, "Nothing is real."

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    2. This is exactly why they have done some of these obvious hoax/fake ops, so idiots will believe nothing is real. Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing Hoax were done as ops on the "truth movement" (for lack of a better term). Now, some shills who have garnered attention by pointing out the flaws and total unreality of the Hook and Boston will now tell you nothing has ever happened and everything is fake. Murder, no ones ever been murdered. War, no such thing. Come on man use your brain.

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  7. my brain is doing fine chris. I have an advantage over you (and jim) here it appears. I actually studied the evidence put forward by Culto and others and came (like many others) to the only reasonable conclusion. I have provided a link that is surely worth some of anyone's time. why don't you try at least giving the idea a chance, doing a little reading and getting back to us?

    here is a post by a recent new reader;
    ''I actually set out to debunk that he hoaxed his death. I have been in front of my laptop for almost 48 hours because I am unable to look away. I just finished reading all 68 pages, from videos, still frames, explanations, the lack of blood, black squib, missing frames, planted fake blood, fake assassination of Oswald, Mary Meyers death hoax, Paul McCartney etc etc etc etc. Honestly a grueling but at the same time a refreshing 48 hours!!

    I just want to say thank you to Culto, Do2read and all others who contributed to this thread. I am now without a shadow of a doubt a firm believer (make that knower) that JFK indeed hoaxed his death. The evidence is irrefutable.''

    http://letsrollforums.com/showpost.php?p=255350&postcount=680

    And it is now irrefutable!!

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    1. Yes, but we all believe Zapruder is fake, so how can you deduce whether the killing was fake or not if that's all you're going by. According to all the witnesses there was blood everywhere. There was blood all over Jackie in other pictures. The letsrollforums behaves like a cult, just like September Clues. They each have some good information but then just go off the deep end on other issues, which I have looked into. Which was exactly my point.

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  8. "The letsrollforums behaves like a cult, just like September Clues. They each have some good information but then just go off the deep end on other issues"

    Agree.

    I never could understand why the SeptemberClues people did not set out their "good information" in some kind of objective logical written form. For example, I always wanted them to have a formal well-designed database program and file of their findings of the CNN list of people who purportedly died in the Towers. It is very odd to me that they almost religiously, as a cult, would never do that.

    They always kept all of their good information bound in woo-woo land.

    They also always made very extreme claims, unnecessarily extreme claims, that seemed to effectively negate all of their good information. Example, NONE of the destruction in progress videos are true and correct in any part, albeit many with CGI and compositing fakery installed. And NONE of the still photos of the aftermath at Ground Zero are true and correct either.

    I have noticed that OneBornFree inappropriately throws in posts in threads that are on a completely different subject.

    "Simon Shack's" rhetoric is consistently vitriolic, especially toward Dr. Fetzer. Why? If he is so comfortable with his theories, why not calmly and methodically present them in the best form possible?

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  9. COMMENT on my previous posting.

    "CNN list of people who purportedly died in the Towers"

    The list consisted of 2,970 names. I am not certain if the list purports to be reporting only Tower victims.

    I notice that Dr. Fetzer and many other 9-11 truth researchers often use, seemingly appropriately, the approximate "3,000" number to state how many people were killed on 9-11. However, that number, or approximate number, does not come from the government, should not be considered part of the government's official story of 9-11, and should not be accepted as a valid number or even implied to be an accepted and true part of the official story.

    It is good to debunk, or accept parts of with reasons given, the official story as well as data provided by a mainstream media outlet but we need to distinguish between the two.

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