The lawsuit filed by families in CT is against Bushmaster -- the maker of the assault rifle. I assume they realized they were in need of law suits to maintain the illusion. What better way to do it than to knock another blow to the gun maker?
As I previously noted, over at Mr. Simon's web shack:
Since virtually all public records in Connecticut regarding this December 2012 agit-prop theatrical performance (most likely staged at a closed-up school that had been used only for furniture storage in recent years) have now been sealed, either by court order, executive order or hastily passed statute -- it's going to be a VERY INTERESTING pre-trial "discovery phase" (when proposed evidentiary material must be shared between opposing sides) IF this supposed lawsuit EVER really goes forward.
From the New York Daily News:
The grieving Newtown families have fired back at Bushmaster.
The parents of five of the kids killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School — along with the loved ones of four staffers who died trying to save them and a teacher who survived the slaughter — are suing the maker of the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle that was used in the massacre two years ago. “The AR-15 was specifically engineered for the U.S. military to meet the needs of changing warfare,” attorney Josh Koskoff of Bridgeport, Conn. said Monday. “The weapon was not designed for home defense or hunting. This weapon was designed to efficiently kill other human beings in combat.” Detective Barbara J. Mattson of the Connecticut State Police holds up a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, the same make and model of gun used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook shooting, during a hearing of a legislative subcommittee reviewing gun laws in Hartford last year.
Bushmaster knows that, but “in order to continue profiting from the sale of AR-15s, defendants chose to disregard the unreasonable risks the rifle posed,” Koskoff wrote in the 40-page complaint filed in Bridgeport Superior Court. In addition to Bushmaster, the families are suing firearms distributor Camfour and Riverview Gun Sales, the now-closed gun shop in East Windsor, Conn. where the mother of mass-murderer Adam Lanza bought the Bushmaster. “These companies assume no responsibility for marketing and selling a product to the general population who are not trained to use it nor even understand the power of it,” Bill Sherlach, whose school psychologist wife Mary was among the 26 victims, said in a statement.
Sherlach added that he supports the Second Amendment. “But I also believe that the gun industry should be brought to bear the same business risk that every other business assumes when it comes to producing, marketing and selling a product,” he said. There was no immediate response from Bushmaster. But the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act shields most gun makers and dealers from civil action “resulting from the criminal or unlawful misuse” of a firearm or ammunition. There are, however, some exceptions. (continued...)
(continuing...) Lanza used a .223-caliber Bushmaster Model XM15 rifle — bought by his mother Nancy — to kill 20 first-graders and six staffers at the Sandy Hook school, according to the Connecticut State Police. The disturbed 20-year-old used a Glock-20 pistol to finish himself off as cops were closing in, they said.
Lanza was also armed with a SIG Sauer 9-mm. semiautomatic pistol, although there is no evidence he fired that weapon. He used a .22-caliber rifle to kill his mother. It was the second-deadliest mass school shooting in U.S. history. Despite that, the National Rifle Association and their Republican allies in Congress were able to thwart the federal government’s attempts to tighten gun control. And since Newtown, there have been 94 more school shootings.
Under USA court procedures, plaintiffs must provide legally verifiable proof of harm before any court will even consider awarding damages for a claim of negligence. In a wrongful death case this principle necessitates the disclosing of such subject-to-challenge "authentic" documents as crime-scene photos, autopsy reports, medical records, forensic-lab data, birth certificates, death certificates, school records, business records, financial records, eyewitness and survivor depositions etc.
So far it's hard to believe that all the above-named defendants were in on the scam/drill from the beginning, but in the intervening two years, of course, various and "highly persuasive" back-room deals could have been worked out. And if the defendants' lawyers all agree eventually to "settle out of court" and no trial ensues, or if the judge dithers and dithers (to generate maximum publicity) and then simply dismisses the case, the prime theatricality of the whole affair will only become more obvious than it already is.
The degree and extent of criminality surrounding the Sandy Hook deception is mind boggling. When you consider the complicity of the governor, state police, the medical examiner, state attorney general, Newtown officials, its police and fire department, emergency personnel, school officials, crisis actors, make believe parents of make believe children victims, fabricated teachers, school principal, & school nurse, CNN liars, etc., you have to wonder if there’s an honest soul left standing in the Banana Republic of Connecticut. Will these well paid criminals ever be brought to justice?
Sandy Hook is Jim Fetzer's best work. It is really outstanding.
Thank you for this, Jim. Even if nothing is done by the authorities, take heart that no one could have done the tremendous job on this story that you did.
Sandy Hook, like 9/11, JFK, Aurora, Pearl Harbor, Lusitania, The Maine, Gulf of Tonkin, Apollo, etc. etc. were all necessary to governments survival, growth, and to its ongoing "health", because, as Randolph Bourne observed: "war is the health of the state" : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randolph_Bourne
Those fabricated events were all just minor parts in the ongoing extremely heavy price of having governments in the first place. [Major parts would be World Wars, genocides etc.]
In other words: if you have government in the first place, you cannot avoid the "shenanigans" of government. No way.
Government is a wholly criminal enterprise, nothing more, nothing less. It is, as Murray Rothbard said : "a gang of thieves writ large"
Or, as Jeffrey Tucker more recently said:
"Politics is a dirty business, a ruse, an ideological cul-de-sac, a vast looter of intellectual and financial resources, a lie that corrupts, a deceiver, a means of unleashing vast evil in the world of the most unexpected and undetected sort and the greatest diverter of human productivity ever concocted by those who do not believe in authentic social and economic progress." http://www.freedominunfreeworld.blogspot.com/
To believe that you, or "we", can have a government that is beneficial, law-abiding, "constitutional", "fair", or unwarlike, is to believe in a fairy tale- a fairy tale you have been brainwashed with [via government funded schooling] by the criminal state itself, using your own money, stolen from yourselves via taxes, for your er.. "education".
Government is _the_ most dangerous religion- a religion to which Fetzer and practically everyone of his guests and regular posters here, is hopelessly infatuated with:
See: "Government = The Most Dangerous Religion" http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2014/09/government-most-dangerous-religion.html
To paraphrase and counter our "noble savage," OBF:
To believe that you, or "we", can live a joyous and satisfying life, WITH the benefits of modern medicine, technology, sanitation, safety and knowledge -- and have NO government is to believe in a fairy tale- a fairy tale you have been brainwashed with [via the delusions and/or elite-funded LIES of the Von Mises/Austrian/U of Chicago pied pipers].
Love ya, OBF, for your rebel spirit, but you're WRONG.
There is no social order, only the Darwinian chaos of the jungle, without government of SOME sort.
Corrupt government is an ever-present, parasitical DISEASE, one that can only be kept at bay by citizen activism and the willingness to sacrifice, at times, for the betterment of our descendants.
Andy Tyne said :" To believe that you, or "we", can live a joyous and satisfying life, WITH the benefits of modern medicine, technology, sanitation, safety and knowledge -- and have NO government is to believe in a fairy tale- "
What on earth are you claiming Andy- that all of these are products of the government? You are joking, correct? Au contraire, mon frere, medicinal advancement, improved sanitation, knowledge etc. have all advanced _despite_ governments, not because of them. As for safety, are you really suggesting that the government keeps _you_ safe? Yeah, right, and since when ? :-)
Andy Tyne said : "a fairy tale you have been brainwashed with [via the delusions and/or elite-funded LIES of the Von Mises/Austrian/U of Chicago pied pipers].
Andy, your lack of knowledge of economic theory is clearly showing here - the U of Chicago economics school has nothing to do with the teachings of Von Mises, in fact, in many ways, they are polar opposites- the Chicago school [eg Friedman etc.] is , like yourself, a rabid supporter of both the government and its central banking system. Your lack of familiarity means that is pointless for me to here try to briefly summarize the teaching of Austrians like Von Mises or Rothbard, I'd just be wasting my time.
Andy Tyne said :"There is no social order, only the Darwinian chaos of the jungle, without government of SOME sort."
Absolutely, 100% wrong Andy. That is a myth you have necessarily been brainwashed with because belief in it by people like yourself is absolutely essential as an excuse/justification for the state.
The natural order exists _despite_ the interference of governments, always has, always will; and it is the natural order of the market, and _not_Darwinian in any sense of the word.
The state relies on your [and of many , many others] ignorance/denial of that natural [and superior] market order in order for yours [and everyone elses] enslavement to the state's unnatural false system of violence, theft, coercion and counterfeiting to continue more or less unquestioned and unmolested.
Andy Tyne said : "Corrupt government is an ever-present, parasitical DISEASE, one that can only be kept at bay by citizen activism "
B.S. All governments , past present and future are inherently, unchangeably, 100% corrupt, right from their initiation [because they are exclusively funded with stolen money and via counterfeiting] . That corruption can never be eliminated via " citizen activism ".
Citizen activists mistakenly almost always try to work _within_ the system that they all have been deluded [by the state] into believing they can "fix".
Working within the system only strengthens that system, and guarantees the continuance of the inherent criminality of it.
OBF, where on Earth and in human history has your absolutely ideal "no-government-at-all" paradigm actually been instituted -- among real, living/breathing people? And if such a situation ever has occurred, how long did it last and how did it end?
Also...
Apsterian, it's time you'd best be gone from here. The jig is up. The fat lady has sung. The bell has rung. The book is shut. The candle is snuffed.
You have by now fully exposed yourself as nothing more profound than a foolish, sayanim "keyboard warrior."
To quote the Bard/Bacon's immortal, pretense-exposing phrase -- your incessant, egregiously over-the-top damning of Jewry in virtually every logorrhical line you type has now made it perfectly clear that you "DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH"!!!
In other words, you're trying your utmost (but ultimately in a rather witless way) to give anti-Zionism a BAD NAME!
Andy Tyme said: "OBF, where on Earth and in human history has your absolutely ideal "no-government-at-all" paradigm actually been instituted -- among real, living/breathing people? And if such a situation ever has occurred, how long did it last and how did it end?"
Are you implying- that because you believe that it has not previously existed, to the best of your knowledge, that that "proves" that the idea is inherently "wrong"?
Or, that if it has existed, and fizzled out it must therefor be "wrong" ?
Why do you assume that I wish to institute/impose a "system" of no government on humanity, and thereby supposedly make the world a better place?
"All" I've tried to point out here is:
[1]The True Nature of All Governments:
All governments are 100% inherently, unchangeably corrupt institutions [because they are all funded via stolen/counterfeit money]
[2]Part of The True Price of Government[s]= Deliberately Faked Events :
If you want governments [yourself, Fetzer and 99.9% of posters here obviously do], then events like 9/11, Sandy Hook, JFK, Pearl Harbor etc. etc. are 100% unavoidable; they are were all events manufactured by a criminal organization whose survival and continuance of "doing business" mostly depends on those types of orchestrated, faked events.
If you believe in the criminal institution called "government" then you and all of the other rabid supporters of them are living in "cloud cuckoo land" in complaining about these events being faked, because the truth is that it can never be any other way [and never will be as long as governments exist], or if you believe that you can actually change the system "for the better" by replacing the current system of direct theft , counterfeiting and coercion with yet another, supposedly "different" system of direct theft , counterfeiting and coercion , run by supposedly "different thinking" individuals promoting different laws/rules that you approve of [for whatever reason].
This just in: you cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
If you start with a 100% corrupt institution [as all governments inevitably must be], you cannot change/reform it/them by replacing individuals within it with "better people", or by passing new laws, or by changing to an allegedly "better" system [National Socialism anyone?] which is at its root no less inherently corrupt [because it is funded in the exact same way] than what it is supposed to replace. Political revolution/overthrowing the system does not work either, because the old corrupt system will only be inevitably replaced by a "new" corrupt system.
All of the previously listed fake events [plus many more], plus all of the wars/genocide, plus the "righteous" indignation about them expressed here by individuals who out of the other side of their mouths parrot and glorify, indeed _insist_ on the existence of the very institution that concocted them; all of the "righteous indignation" over NSA spying, CIA torture, the latest war, the jews controlling "everything", the environment, the welfare system, Obamacare, OR WHATEVER, is all just pissing in the wind; it is the futile, meaningless complaining of persons who just don't get it ; that they are all slaves, have always been, and probably always will be.
See Video : "The Story Of Your Enslavement" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A
And knowing you are on the same "page" as myself as to how 9/11 was carried out, this article expands on the points I have tried to make above : 9/11 Video & Victim Fakery and"The Matrix", Versus Your Freedom : http://onebornfrees911researchreview.blogspot.com/2014/05/911-video-victim-fakery-andthe-matrix.html
You think OBF that these social servants. chosen through public vote, and feasting off the public table do so by their own wits and cheats. They are servants all right, just not public servants. All lined up upfront or as things go, and thrown into the pockets of private lobby groups. They try to survive just like anybody else. What they are feasting on are mere crumbs too. Take the Nazis for example and Hitler. He didn't get there parading around Reichstag with hungry wackos.He was brought before Hindenburg, straight up, in time of confusion and told to do his thing. That you can read. The perps perfected their democracy since then much to their advantage. Hundred years is enough to get a hold on a new game. Public government. No such thing.
Simon Pimon said : "Public government. No such thing."
If you look at the big picture here, the similarities between the political philosophies of Fetzer, A. Tyme, Apsterian, Fox, Kuehn, King, to name but a few regular posters here, far outweigh their superficial differences.
Essentially , they all believe in the state, the necessity of its existence is an unstated, unquestioned assumption.
Their other unstated, unquestioned assumption is that the state can actually solve any/all of the social problem[s] they each see as being most important to solve- when the historical record clearly shows that the state has _never_ solved any of "society's problems".
The fact of the matter is that for fundamental reasons to do with the nature of human action, it is in fact _impossible_ for the state to solve _any_ of society's problems- it can only create more.
The [minor] political differences between the political views of Fetzer,Tyme, Apsterian etc. are are mere "storm in a teacup" superficial differences over what the state should/should not do, nothing more.
Despite the historical record of failure in every area in which the state has become involved , they all choose to remain blind to that record, hence, they all repeatedly and mistakenly fantasize that the state will do exactly what they want it to [when the right people get elected, the right laws get passed, or the "right" form of government is instituted], and that it is an effective way to solve society's problems , whether the perceived problem is government inside jobs [eg 9/11], environmental pollution, immigration, poverty, the jews, the masons, or whatever, when the fact of the matter is that all of those "problems", and many more besides, are directly caused by governments themselves.
As Jeffrey Tucker said : "Politics is a dirty business, a ruse, an ideological cul-de-sac, a vast looter of intellectual and financial resources, a lie that corrupts, a deceiver, a means of unleashing vast evil in the world of the most unexpected and undetected sort and the greatest diverter of human productivity ever concocted by those who do not believe in authentic social and economic progress."
Asking/expecting a government to solve _any_ problem is to inhabit a fantasy world firmly entrenched within "the matrix".
Despite their acknowledgement of various "inside jobs" in these threads, nearly all posters are living within a large matrix of false beliefs , the biggest of which might be: "government is necessary, government works, government solves problems" [or something like that].
You have to eliminate legal system and any public form of control to get rid of the government, and this as we know is not possible. A government works off a constitution. This is the government. A set of rules and principles. Even if you get rid of the televised puppets by way of introducing fully computerized system of government this system will be based on rules that must come from somewhere. The system itself have to be maintained and controlled by someone. I'd say politicos are not the problem. They operate within their own playground and are happy with that. They don't do big psyops, oil wars, and market crashes. And you have to take the snake by the head to lame it. This will be edgy. Look what happened when royalties fell and chaos followed hundred years ago, and democracy came to replace it. Two world wars and millions dead. At the end it was all for the better, but at what cost.
To get a better idea how the jets made access into the WTCs, and a few of you seem to be having trouble with this one, see Youtube's 9-11:What Cut the Plane Shaped Hole? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPZNQTj2hNg. This video does show bolted together panels( which superceded the practice of welding together perimeter panel assemblies and adjacent perimeter panels, 1969 documented discovery) and shows corner columns slow burning in half and vertical columns cut like butter by jet wings( as designed per 1968-1969 application of heat producing primer paint on all perimeter panel assemblies.)
I still am haunted by the memory of the procurement of exploding bolts for the WTCs I and II. Exploding bolts are a one time deal. dad bailed out soon thereafter and I stole the guy's chair.
Again, thanks. <3
ReplyDeleteThe lawsuit filed by families in CT is against Bushmaster -- the maker of the assault rifle. I assume they realized they were in need of law suits to maintain the illusion. What better way to do it than to knock another blow to the gun maker?
ReplyDeleteAs I previously noted, over at Mr. Simon's web shack:
ReplyDeleteSince virtually all public records in Connecticut regarding this December 2012 agit-prop theatrical performance (most likely staged at a closed-up school that had been used only for furniture storage in recent years) have now been sealed, either by court order, executive order or hastily passed statute -- it's going to be a VERY INTERESTING pre-trial "discovery phase" (when proposed evidentiary material must be shared between opposing sides) IF this supposed lawsuit EVER really goes forward.
From the New York Daily News:
The grieving Newtown families have fired back at Bushmaster.
The parents of five of the kids killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School — along with the loved ones of four staffers who died trying to save them and a teacher who survived the slaughter — are suing the maker of the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle that was used in the massacre two years ago.
“The AR-15 was specifically engineered for the U.S. military to meet the needs of changing warfare,” attorney Josh Koskoff of Bridgeport, Conn. said Monday.
“The weapon was not designed for home defense or hunting. This weapon was designed to efficiently kill other human beings in combat.”
Detective Barbara J. Mattson of the Connecticut State Police holds up a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, the same make and model of gun used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook shooting, during a hearing of a legislative subcommittee reviewing gun laws in Hartford last year.
Bushmaster knows that, but “in order to continue profiting from the sale of AR-15s, defendants chose to disregard the unreasonable risks the rifle posed,” Koskoff wrote in the 40-page complaint filed in Bridgeport Superior Court.
In addition to Bushmaster, the families are suing firearms distributor Camfour and Riverview Gun Sales, the now-closed gun shop in East Windsor, Conn. where the mother of mass-murderer Adam Lanza bought the Bushmaster.
“These companies assume no responsibility for marketing and selling a product to the general population who are not trained to use it nor even understand the power of it,” Bill Sherlach, whose school psychologist wife Mary was among the 26 victims, said in a statement.
Sherlach added that he supports the Second Amendment.
“But I also believe that the gun industry should be brought to bear the same business risk that every other business assumes when it comes to producing, marketing and selling a product,” he said.
There was no immediate response from Bushmaster. But the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act shields most gun makers and dealers from civil action “resulting from the criminal or unlawful misuse” of a firearm or ammunition. There are, however, some exceptions.
(continued...)
(continuing...)
DeleteLanza used a .223-caliber Bushmaster Model XM15 rifle — bought by his mother Nancy — to kill 20 first-graders and six staffers at the Sandy Hook school, according to the Connecticut State Police.
The disturbed 20-year-old used a Glock-20 pistol to finish himself off as cops were closing in, they said.
Lanza was also armed with a SIG Sauer 9-mm. semiautomatic pistol, although there is no evidence he fired that weapon. He used a .22-caliber rifle to kill his mother.
It was the second-deadliest mass school shooting in U.S. history. Despite that, the National Rifle Association and their Republican allies in Congress were able to thwart the federal government’s attempts to tighten gun control. And since Newtown, there have been 94 more school shootings.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2045616
Under USA court procedures, plaintiffs must provide legally verifiable proof of harm before any court will even consider awarding damages for a claim of negligence. In a wrongful death case this principle necessitates the disclosing of such subject-to-challenge "authentic" documents as crime-scene photos, autopsy reports, medical records, forensic-lab data, birth certificates, death certificates, school records, business records, financial records, eyewitness and survivor depositions etc.
So far it's hard to believe that all the above-named defendants were in on the scam/drill from the beginning, but in the intervening two years, of course, various and "highly persuasive" back-room deals could have been worked out. And if the defendants' lawyers all agree eventually to "settle out of court" and no trial ensues, or if the judge dithers and dithers (to generate maximum publicity) and then simply dismisses the case, the prime theatricality of the whole affair will only become more obvious than it already is.
There's no way agitprop (falseflag) is going to be thought a serious argument in court & even attempted -- so the public dumb-down continues.
DeleteThe degree and extent of criminality surrounding the Sandy Hook deception is mind boggling. When you consider the complicity of the governor, state police, the medical examiner, state attorney general, Newtown officials, its police and fire department, emergency personnel, school officials, crisis actors, make believe parents of make believe children victims, fabricated teachers, school principal, & school nurse, CNN liars, etc., you have to wonder if there’s an honest soul left standing in the Banana Republic of Connecticut. Will these well paid criminals ever be brought to justice?
ReplyDeleteRead more: whatreallyhappened.com http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3MEHU0Lg0
Love the expression of your hyperbole: "Banana Republic of CT"
Delete(Especially since BR=CIA anyway, originally for United Fruit: "capitalism is America & worker rights is communism").
Sandy Hook is Jim Fetzer's best work. It is really outstanding.
ReplyDeleteThank you for this, Jim. Even if nothing is done by the authorities, take heart that no one could have done the tremendous job on this story that you did.
Sandy Hook, like 9/11, JFK, Aurora, Pearl Harbor, Lusitania, The Maine, Gulf of Tonkin, Apollo, etc. etc. were all necessary to governments survival, growth, and to its ongoing "health", because, as Randolph Bourne observed: "war is the health of the state" : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randolph_Bourne
ReplyDeleteThose fabricated events were all just minor parts in the ongoing extremely heavy price of having governments in the first place. [Major parts would be World Wars, genocides etc.]
In other words: if you have government in the first place, you cannot avoid the "shenanigans" of government. No way.
Government is a wholly criminal enterprise, nothing more, nothing less. It is, as Murray Rothbard said : "a gang of thieves writ large"
Or, as Jeffrey Tucker more recently said:
"Politics is a dirty business, a ruse, an ideological cul-de-sac, a vast looter of intellectual and financial resources, a lie that corrupts, a deceiver, a means of unleashing vast evil in the world of the most unexpected and undetected sort and the greatest diverter of human productivity ever concocted by those who do not believe in authentic social and economic progress."
http://www.freedominunfreeworld.blogspot.com/
To believe that you, or "we", can have a government that is beneficial, law-abiding, "constitutional", "fair", or unwarlike, is to believe in a fairy tale- a fairy tale you have been brainwashed with [via government funded schooling] by the criminal state itself, using your own money, stolen from yourselves via taxes, for your er.. "education".
Government is _the_ most dangerous religion- a religion to which Fetzer and practically everyone of his guests and regular posters here, is hopelessly infatuated with:
See: "Government = The Most Dangerous Religion"
http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2014/09/government-most-dangerous-religion.html
..and :"The Lying, Criminal, State": http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2007/10/lying-criminal-state.html
Regards,onebornfree.
To paraphrase and counter our "noble savage," OBF:
DeleteTo believe that you, or "we", can live a joyous and satisfying life, WITH the benefits of modern medicine, technology, sanitation, safety and knowledge -- and have NO government is to believe in a fairy tale- a fairy tale you have been brainwashed with [via the delusions and/or elite-funded LIES of the Von Mises/Austrian/U of Chicago pied pipers].
Love ya, OBF, for your rebel spirit, but you're WRONG.
There is no social order, only the Darwinian chaos of the jungle, without government of SOME sort.
Corrupt government is an ever-present, parasitical DISEASE, one that can only be kept at bay by citizen activism and the willingness to sacrifice, at times, for the betterment of our descendants.
Andy Tyne said :" To believe that you, or "we", can live a joyous and satisfying life, WITH the benefits of modern medicine, technology, sanitation, safety and knowledge -- and have NO government is to believe in a fairy tale- "
ReplyDeleteWhat on earth are you claiming Andy- that all of these are products of the government? You are joking, correct? Au contraire, mon frere, medicinal advancement, improved sanitation, knowledge etc. have all advanced _despite_ governments, not because of them. As for safety, are you really suggesting that the government keeps _you_ safe? Yeah, right, and since when ? :-)
Andy Tyne said : "a fairy tale you have been brainwashed with [via the delusions and/or elite-funded LIES of the Von Mises/Austrian/U of Chicago pied pipers].
Andy, your lack of knowledge of economic theory is clearly showing here - the U of Chicago economics school has nothing to do with the teachings of Von Mises, in fact, in many ways, they are polar opposites- the Chicago school [eg Friedman etc.] is , like yourself, a rabid supporter of both the government and its central banking system. Your lack of familiarity means that is pointless for me to here try to briefly summarize the teaching of Austrians like Von Mises or Rothbard, I'd just be wasting my time.
Andy Tyne said :"There is no social order, only the Darwinian chaos of the jungle, without government of SOME sort."
Absolutely, 100% wrong Andy. That is a myth you have necessarily been brainwashed with because belief in it by people like yourself is absolutely essential as an excuse/justification for the state.
The natural order exists _despite_ the interference of governments, always has, always will; and it is the natural order of the market, and _not_Darwinian in any sense of the word.
The state relies on your [and of many , many others] ignorance/denial of that natural [and superior] market order in order for yours [and everyone elses] enslavement to the state's unnatural false system of violence, theft, coercion and counterfeiting to continue more or less unquestioned and unmolested.
Andy Tyne said : "Corrupt government is an ever-present, parasitical DISEASE, one that can only be kept at bay by citizen activism "
B.S. All governments , past present and future are inherently, unchangeably, 100% corrupt, right from their initiation [because they are exclusively funded with stolen money and via counterfeiting] . That corruption can never be eliminated via " citizen activism ".
Citizen activists mistakenly almost always try to work _within_ the system that they all have been deluded [by the state] into believing they can "fix".
Working within the system only strengthens that system, and guarantees the continuance of the inherent criminality of it.
Regards, onebornfree.
OBF, where on Earth and in human history has your absolutely ideal "no-government-at-all" paradigm actually been instituted -- among real, living/breathing people? And if such a situation ever has occurred, how long did it last and how did it end?
ReplyDeleteAlso...
Apsterian, it's time you'd best be gone from here. The jig is up. The fat lady has sung. The bell has rung. The book is shut. The candle is snuffed.
You have by now fully exposed yourself as nothing more profound than a foolish, sayanim "keyboard warrior."
To quote the Bard/Bacon's immortal, pretense-exposing phrase -- your incessant, egregiously over-the-top damning of Jewry in virtually every logorrhical line you type has now made it perfectly clear that you "DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH"!!!
In other words, you're trying your utmost (but ultimately in a rather witless way) to give anti-Zionism a BAD NAME!
If the Yarmulke fits... wear it.
Gotcha!!!
Andy Tyme said: "OBF, where on Earth and in human history has your absolutely ideal "no-government-at-all" paradigm actually been instituted -- among real, living/breathing people? And if such a situation ever has occurred, how long did it last and how did it end?"
ReplyDeleteAre you implying- that because you believe that it has not previously existed, to the best of your knowledge, that that "proves" that the idea is inherently "wrong"?
Or, that if it has existed, and fizzled out it must therefor be "wrong" ?
Why do you assume that I wish to institute/impose a "system" of no government on humanity, and thereby supposedly make the world a better place?
"All" I've tried to point out here is:
[1]The True Nature of All Governments:
All governments are 100% inherently, unchangeably corrupt institutions [because they are all funded via stolen/counterfeit money]
[2]Part of The True Price of Government[s]= Deliberately Faked Events :
If you want governments [yourself, Fetzer and 99.9% of posters here obviously do], then events like 9/11, Sandy Hook, JFK, Pearl Harbor etc. etc. are 100% unavoidable; they are were all events manufactured by a criminal organization whose survival and continuance of "doing business" mostly depends on those types of orchestrated, faked events.
If you believe in the criminal institution called "government" then you and all of the other rabid supporters of them are living in "cloud cuckoo land" in complaining about these events being faked, because the truth is that it can never be any other way [and never will be as long as governments exist], or if you believe that you can actually change the system "for the better" by replacing the current system of direct theft , counterfeiting and coercion with yet another, supposedly "different" system of direct theft , counterfeiting and coercion , run by supposedly "different thinking" individuals promoting different laws/rules that you approve of [for whatever reason].
This just in: you cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
If you start with a 100% corrupt institution [as all governments inevitably must be], you cannot change/reform it/them by replacing individuals within it with "better people", or by passing new laws, or by changing to an allegedly "better" system [National Socialism anyone?] which is at its root no less inherently corrupt [because it is funded in the exact same way] than what it is supposed to replace. Political revolution/overthrowing the system does not work either, because the old corrupt system will only be inevitably replaced by a "new" corrupt system.
All of the previously listed fake events [plus many more], plus all of the wars/genocide, plus the "righteous" indignation about them expressed here by individuals who out of the other side of their mouths parrot and glorify, indeed _insist_ on the existence of the very institution that concocted them; all of the "righteous indignation" over NSA spying, CIA torture, the latest war, the jews controlling "everything", the environment, the welfare system, Obamacare, OR WHATEVER, is all just pissing in the wind; it is the futile, meaningless complaining of persons who just don't get it ; that they are all slaves, have always been, and probably always will be.
See Video : "The Story Of Your Enslavement" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A
And knowing you are on the same "page" as myself as to how 9/11 was carried out, this article expands on the points I have tried to make above :
9/11 Video & Victim Fakery and"The Matrix", Versus Your Freedom :
http://onebornfrees911researchreview.blogspot.com/2014/05/911-video-victim-fakery-andthe-matrix.html
Regards, onebornfree
You think OBF that these social servants. chosen through public vote, and feasting off the public table do so by their own wits and cheats. They are servants all right, just not public servants. All lined up upfront or as things go, and thrown into the pockets of private lobby groups. They try to survive just like anybody else. What they are feasting on are mere crumbs too. Take the Nazis for example and Hitler. He didn't get there parading around Reichstag with hungry wackos.He was brought before Hindenburg, straight up, in time of confusion and told to do his thing. That you can read. The perps perfected their democracy since then much to their advantage. Hundred years is enough to get a hold on a new game. Public government. No such thing.
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ReplyDeleteSimon Pimon said : "Public government. No such thing."
ReplyDeleteIf you look at the big picture here, the similarities between the political philosophies of Fetzer, A. Tyme, Apsterian, Fox, Kuehn, King, to name but a few regular posters here, far outweigh their superficial differences.
Essentially , they all believe in the state, the necessity of its existence is an unstated, unquestioned assumption.
Their other unstated, unquestioned assumption is that the state can actually solve any/all of the social problem[s] they each see as being most important to solve- when the historical record clearly shows that the state has _never_ solved any of "society's problems".
The fact of the matter is that for fundamental reasons to do with the nature of human action, it is in fact _impossible_ for the state to solve _any_ of society's problems- it can only create more.
The [minor] political differences between the political views of Fetzer,Tyme, Apsterian etc. are are mere "storm in a teacup" superficial differences over what the state should/should not do, nothing more.
Despite the historical record of failure in every area in which the state has become involved , they all choose to remain blind to that record, hence, they all repeatedly and mistakenly fantasize that the state will do exactly what they want it to [when the right people get elected, the right laws get passed, or the "right" form of government is instituted], and that it is an effective way to solve society's problems , whether the perceived problem is government inside jobs [eg 9/11], environmental pollution, immigration, poverty, the jews, the masons, or whatever, when the fact of the matter is that all of those "problems", and many more besides, are directly caused by governments themselves.
As Jeffrey Tucker said : "Politics is a dirty business, a ruse, an ideological cul-de-sac, a vast looter of intellectual and financial resources, a lie that corrupts, a deceiver, a means of unleashing vast evil in the world of the most unexpected and undetected sort and the greatest diverter of human productivity ever concocted by those who do not believe in authentic social and economic progress."
Asking/expecting a government to solve _any_ problem is to inhabit a fantasy world firmly entrenched within "the matrix".
Despite their acknowledgement of various "inside jobs" in these threads, nearly all posters are living within a large matrix of false beliefs , the biggest of which might be: "government is necessary, government works, government solves problems" [or something like that].
Regards, onebornfree.
You have to eliminate legal system and any public form of control to get rid of the government, and this as we know is not possible. A government works off a constitution. This is the government. A set of rules and principles. Even if you get rid of the televised puppets by way of introducing fully computerized system of government this system will be based on rules that must come from somewhere. The system itself have to be maintained and controlled by someone. I'd say politicos are not the problem. They operate within their own playground and are happy with that. They don't do big psyops, oil wars, and market crashes. And you have to take the snake by the head to lame it. This will be edgy. Look what happened when royalties fell and chaos followed hundred years ago, and democracy came to replace it. Two world wars and millions dead. At the end it was all for the better, but at what cost.
ReplyDeleteTo get a better idea how the jets made access into the WTCs, and a few of you seem to be having trouble with this one, see Youtube's 9-11:What Cut the Plane Shaped Hole? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPZNQTj2hNg. This video does show bolted together panels( which superceded the practice of welding together perimeter panel assemblies and adjacent perimeter panels, 1969 documented discovery) and shows corner columns slow burning in half and vertical columns cut like butter by jet wings( as designed per 1968-1969 application of heat producing primer paint on all perimeter panel assemblies.)
ReplyDeleteI still am haunted by the memory of the procurement of exploding bolts for the WTCs I and II. Exploding bolts are a one time deal. dad bailed out soon thereafter and I stole the guy's chair.
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