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Hi Gary! Thanks for the interview! One small detail, if easy to correct - the last name is spelled Golovin :) - Thanks!
Gary, FYI, there's another assembly yet to occur - imminently - at "The Kennedy Center" - next Sunday: http://www.eventbrite.com/e/jfk-vigil-12714-a-new-pearl-harbor-of-conscience-for-peace-and-transparency-tickets-14456330273?ref=esfb&utm_campaign=201308&utm_source=Facebookenivtefor001
Gary King said :"Attention all commenters, We are cleaning up our act by deleting any use of profanity or off topic comments" Gary, where does repetitive, ongoing, attempted character assassination fit in with your "clean up" act?For example, in this thread : "..esp. "compass/Joan Edwards are just Jewwy shills " Are not such idiocies merely transparent attempts to smear certain posters, when the person making the smear has nothing substantial to offer as counter argument? Do you really need that type of behavior here? Furthermore, do not be fooled by idiotic claims to some imagined "free speech" . "right"[or whatever] here. The first words of the 1st amendment to the US constitution simply say: "Government shall make no law.....", meaning that the Federal government [supposedly] cannot pass laws to restrict speech. You however, are not the government, therefor, as moderator here you can restrict speech here [ a private forum], in any way you wish, yes?Or do you intend to let certain cretins here continue to name-call and character assassinate on a daily basis because of their ongoing delusions about so-called "free speech"?Enquiring minds want to know :-)Regards, onebornfree
I'm allowing the "J" word only because it was brought up briefly in the first hour... right now I'm looking for curse words and apsterian. apsterian is banned. I don't even read it, I just hit delete. Gary King PS: Jim did not send this message.
The Gary Webb tragedy puts me in mind of this recent story and video from BrassCheck TV of another whistleblower. This story from Germany illustrates how the CIA owns not only American journalists, but European journalists as well. Listen to what this German has to say about how ashamed he now is for cooperating with the American CIA in propagandizing the German people. Bribed to betray the people German journalist blows the whistlehttp://www.brasschecktv.com/page/27416.html"Media is bringing war to Europe"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp-Wh77wt1o#t=203Alexandra BruceOctober 8, 2014On October 1, I sent a short clip from this interview of German journalist, Dr. Udo Ulfkotte, author of the bestselling book in Germany, 'Bought Journalism.' In the book, he describes how he and his colleagues were controlled through bribery by the CIA to write US propaganda, instead of reporting the actual news, throughout his 25+ year career, as a leading journalist in Germany, which he describes as "still a [postwar] colony of the USA."This extended version of the interview reveals how the "sausage" of news is made and it is toenail-curling, it is so disgusting.He says there is currently a terrible pressure being exerted by US agencies on journalists, worldwide to promote World War III and that he wants to do his part to stop this. He says that he's had three heart attacks and has no children, so that if they come after him, it will only lend more credence to his confessions, of which he is horribly ashamed and feels morally compelled to share before he does meet his maker.
More on how CIA treats whistleblowers:Ralph McGehee was a CIA agent for 25 years, mainly in South-East Asia where he witnessed bombing and napalming of villages, which caused him to examine closely what the CIA was really all about. He has written about Vietnam's Phoenix Program www.vwip.org/articles/m/McGeheeRalph_VietnamsPhoenixProgram.htm and after a long battle with CIA censors, he published the book "Deadly Deceits" in 1983. Ralph has been harassed by the CIA and FBI, involving bodily injury, and his CIABASE website was shut down on Spring of 2000. \He copied some reports that can be found at http://serendipity.magnet.ch/cia/ciabase_report_1.htm (and 2.htm), http://serendipity.magnet.ch/cia/death_squads.htm, and www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Deadly_Deceits.html. He concluded that the CIA is not now nor has it ever been a central intelligence agency but rather the covert action arm of the President's foreign policy advisors, of which disinformation is a large part of its responsibility and the American people are the primary target of its lies.
Why Kennedy was killed:http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Intro_GungHo_Japan_DD.htmlOne of the primary reasons John F. Kennedy was assassinated had to do with the fact he dared to interfere in the framework of power. Kennedy was intent on exercising his ELECTED powers and not allowing them to be usurped by power-crazed individuals in the intelligence community, threatening to "splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the wind." There were four things that filled the CIA with rage and sealed his fate; =JFK fired Allen Dulles, =was in the process of founding a panel to investigate the CIA's numerous crimes, =put a damper on the breadth and scope of the CIA, and \=limited their ability to act under National Security Memoranda 55.
Top Reasons JFK was killed:1. He was going to end the Jews illicit nuclear weapons program at Dimona.2. He had the Treasury Department issue debt-free, silver backed currency. This eliminated the massive interest payments to the Jew run Federal Reserve.3. Kennedy supported Algerian independence.4. Kennedy was going to smash the CIA into a thousand pieces.5. Kennedy was going to pull out of Vietnam.Kennedy was seen as a direct threat to the survival of Israel and had to be eliminated.
Special on Pope John Paul [Titled: Pope a War Criminal and Hypocrite for Bush ] http://publish.nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/update/i ndex.phpMartyred Archbishop Oscar Romero to Become a Saint - John Paul to Be Tried for War Crimes and Genocide; a Report by Enrique Munoz, CNI correspondent in Mexico City The defining moment in John Paul's legacy was his unjust and disrespectful treatment of Arch Bishop Oscar Romero in 1980. Romero thought that the church's place was with the poor and to back radical social change to end the suffering and repression. After meeting with the Pope, Romero said to an aide: " Help me to understand why I have been treated so badly by the Holy Father." The Pope had told Romero to get along with the government of El Salvador that with US money training and moral support was frantically killing priests, peasants and organizers by the tens of thousands yearly. Romero himself called the Pope's response to his pleas and the situation in El Salvador as "Unjust." One month later the Arch Bishop was assassinated while saying mass. Romero's funeral turned into a bloody riot as the US-backed death squads (the Salvadoran Government) opened fire on the crowds. From a letter to President Carter by Oscar Romero: "You say that you are Christian. If you are really Christian, please stop sending military aid to the military here, because they use it only to kill my people." http://www.creighton.edu/CollaborativeMinistry/rom ero.html The Pope made similar statements to GW Bush before the illegal and criminal invasion of Iraq. Millions of people all across Latin America call for sainthood for Oscar Romero. Next the Pope turned his attention to destroying the Sandinista Revolution in Nicaragua and the many priests who supported the revolution in the sprit of Romero, particularly Ernesto Cardinal. The Pope put the unity of the church ahead of the salvation of the world and its role to defend the poor. As a US PBS television special on the Pope stated: "It was a tragedy what the Pope did in Central America and Latin America in the 1980's." The show goes on to cite a number of observers who question whether the pontiff's judgment was clouded by his personal experience with communism in Poland. The Pope continued his right wing purge of Church officials, seminaries and Liberation theology activists throughout Latin America until his death, though he also increased his attacks on capitalism and the imperialist designs of the US and its hero GW Bush. Since 1990 the Pope intervened in Mexico - especially in Chiapas - installing conservative Bishops and seeking to discredit or silence Bishop Ruiz and others who supported the Zapatista revolution and called for an end to oppression and oppressive structures in Mexico..
It is far from accurate to opine that the Kennedy Assassination was a success for ALL of the factions who either hatched it, facilitated its execution, or subsequently felt (and acted upon) the urgent need to cover the traces of the true instigators and technicians.Certainly the Italian-American Mafia dons mostly came to a bad end, with their dreams of a reclaimed Cuba dashed and their offspring destined to be displaced by the (mainly) Jewish banksters atop the (Lansky-reformulated) USA hierarchy of organised crime And those warmongering, brass-button-polishing plotters who expected their framing of LHO (as a Soviet-inspired, Cuban-directed assassin) would light a fuse that would quickly ignite a full-blown nuke battle with "the Roo-skies" were sorely disappointed too, as we all know.For it wasn't just just the cooler, Washington-and-Langley (spook) heads that prevailed in dashing the Strontium 90-tinged dreams of such fascistic demons in human form as Walker, Lemay, Lemnitzer (and perhaps even that certifiable, paranoid schizophrenic civilian, Angleton). It was malevolent common sense -- on the part of the "saner" malefactors, who saw far greater profitability (and survivability) in building up their beloved mil-intel-industrial behemouth via a drug-lines protecting, proxy war against the Reds in Southeast Asia. And since Mary Meyer-besotted (perhaps) JFK was standing in the way of that nascent war's wild expansion, OF COURSE he had to be iced... but not at the cost of a still-too-risky ICBM exchange.Thus the multi-layered death plot's Mexico City/Cuban Embassy gambit was rather unconvincingly carried out -- with that ridiculously inappropriate Ozzie "double" standing in for one of the more cosmetically convincing "Alec Hidells" who instead was given the day off. Yes, in the murky, dangerous world of realpolitik there are often plots within plots, some of which are successfully plotted against, by some of the very plotters whom the other plotters foolishly trusted to be plotting WITH them, instead of working in service to yet other plots, the details of which the foiled plotters were, for too long, unaware.Or, as the evil Rummy would later cryptically observe -- regarding the hidden dangers of the "known unknowns" etc.
@ Gary King, "I'm allowing the "J" word only because it was brought up briefly in the first hour... right now I'm looking for curse words ..."The 'J' word it seems you cannot name is not a curse word. And Jews pursuing Jewish interests might happen in any context, even one in which related discussion has not previously included comment on Jews as such. Bringing Jews as such into the discussion is not automatically either right or wrong, it depends entirely on the value of the new information and even that question is one that fair-minded people can disagree om - implying the need for further discussion to thrash it out.It should not however be controversial to say that if you want to look into major political and economic issues in the modern West, covered and covered up by the mainstream media, but you have a prejudice against discussing the Jewish Question, you are no friend of truth. Jews with quite open ethnic biases more or less control entirely Western financial institutions, Western media, and the funding of establishment political parties in most of the globally influential states. [The same cannot be said of 'satanists' -- so a dismissive attitude to people who would shift attention away from real actors to phantoms such as satanists is reasonable.]
DiEugenio on Hankey:http://www.ctka.net/2010/hanky.html In JFK 2, Hankey makes a rather large song and dance about nefarious notes and memos mentioning George Bush. In fact, he builds a 90 minute pseudo-documentary largely around one FBI memo. Which he then stretches beyond all normal meaning.Yet, the Assassination Records Review Board declassified 2 million pages of documents after Oliver Stone's film came out. Of which this film uses none. Why not? Its easy to figure out. Was Bush at Bethesda during Kennedy's autopsy? Was he in contact with Clay Shaw, or David Ferrie or Guy Banister when Oswald was in New Orleans? Do any cables go to Bush, or have his name on them, before, during and after Oswald's crucial Mexico City trip? Did Bush have any contact with the Warren Commission during its inquiry into Kennedy's death? Did Bush have any association with Ruth and Michael Paine in 1963 or 1964? Did Bush have any influence in ratcheting up the Vietnam War in 1964 or 1965? Did Bush influence Johnson to stop Kennedy's attempt to warm relations with Castro after Kennedy's assassination? Nope to all these.In 1963, Bush was a businessman living in Houston, running Zapata Offshore. He was the chairman of the Harris County Republican Organization, supporting Barry Goldwater and preparing for a 1964 run for the Senate against Democrat Ralph Yarborough. The idea that someone like that would be part of a high-level plot to kill President Kennedy, and would threaten to kill Hoover so he would then pen a memo concealing his non-involvement in the assassination, this is all nonsense..... What the Hoover memo shows is that Bush was some kind of CIA asset in 1963. And that through his business dealings he was associated with some Cuban exiles. Just as many, many wealthy Repubicans were at that time ....When Bush said, upon becoming CIA Director for a year, that the had no previous association with the Agency, this was not true. In other words, he lied. Yawn.This is a shoddy production that cannot stand up to scrutiny and therefore gives the JFK research community a black eye..........
Thanks Compass for an on topic comment... we may just turn this ship around.
To have John Hankey as an expert on anything is an insult to ones intelligence. Hankey is a hack at best and a spOOk at worse. To accuse Jim DiEugenio and Lisa Pease of the things he did is nonsense. Hankey will now do or say anything for attention. Having ones opinion is one thing, libel is a whole other ballpark. Of course everything is the Joos fault anyway, isn't it. why bother looking at Dulles, McCloy, Ford, Hoover or Curtis LeMay? Blame everything on the Joos, that's the ticket.
Now there is an ON topic comment! I knew we could do it!Thanks Authur for paving the way for a decent discussion that's actually about the show. PS: Close call on the you know what.
Thank you Gary. apsterian is a lonely person with no real human contact; and that itself is sad. :( I have met Jim Fetzer a couple of times and overall he has some decent analysis. I can't agree with the altering of the Zapruder film though, and it really doesn't make much difference. the thing was set up by a huge cabal which sadly is still in power. I do feel the JFK assassination is still important, no doubt the CIA still does or else they wouldn't spend so much time with obvious disinformation.
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