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I for one did listen and I thank you for bringing this information forward. Historical facts are crucial in moving forward to a better world. Hopefully this investigation into the big lie (holoco$t) will go further, wherever the truth may take it.
ReplyDeleteAmen to that. ;)
DeleteYes, these Slovaks are lying for Zionism. And Lt SG Jack H Taylor of the US Navy featured in the prosecutor's exhibit for the Nuremberg Tribunal is also lying; the Nazi justices who were sitting in the courtroom viewing the film are the ones portrayed in the movie Judgment at Nuremberg, starring the infamous Zionist shill Spencer Tracey. The Jewish witch Marlene Dietrich, who made a career pretending to be a renowned German singer and actress, also starred in Judgment at Nuremberg, and her daughter Maria has confirmed the truth of the line spoken by her character in defense of the innocent German burghers. The main point for truly ethical judgment of Nuremberg in light of what we know today is, of course, that the innocent people gassed, worked, or allowed to starve to death could not have been 6 million, but were only an acceptable few hundreds of thousands.
ReplyDeleteJust watched yr Jack Taylor bit AND HE IS LYING. He says Maunthausen was an "extermination camp, the worst in Germany."
DeleteUnfortunately for Lying Jack [who is reading his lines] nobody is telling that lie anymore. The most recent version of the holostory is that none of the German camps were extermination camps. They gave up that particulat lie in the 70s or 80s when somebody leaked army reports on the camps the Western Allies liberated. These reports indicate that there was no evidence of exterminations in these camps, no evidence that anybody was gassed [this after conducting beau coup autopsies]. Jack's version of events is several incarnations old. Nobody believes, or is pedalling, the particular lies he is telling for decades now.
There were three Auschwitz camps. Two were purported to be extermination facilities: the original at Oświęcim and Auschwitz II at Birkenau. The one at Birkenau had two extermination cottages, while the one at Oświęcim had the below-ground chamber. The witness may have referred to either as "Auschwitz".
DeleteWhy might I wish to doubt the forensics of Fred Leuchter? For one thing, Leuchter is not a licensed engineer, even though he is an expert in exterminating people; but his design work is with electric chairs, and I believe he's made it clear that he doesn't believe gas to be efficient. For another, the lab technician that examined Leuchter's samples, Fred Roth, said that, "I don't think the Leuchter results have any meaning. There's nothing in any of our data that says those surfaces were exposed or not." This is all in the transcript of the Errol Morris film Mr. Death.
As for Bormann's "death" in Berlin, Edward R Murrow's colleague Paul Manning was told by former SS officers that a Bormann fake was constructed by altering the teeth of two concentration-camp inmates who were killed in 1945 and then buried by Waffen SS men under command of Gestapo chief Heinrich Müller - so that the Bundesrepublik's (Gehlen Fremde Heere Ost) police apparatus could "discover" one of them under a Berlin freight yard in 1972. Dave Emory quotes Manning's version here (in the final paragraphs). Write it off as a misguided bias toward the Murrow CBS news team and against McCarthyites and Nazis, but Paul Manning encountered just as many obstacles getting his book on Bormann published to warn the world against unvanquished Nazism as Ernst Zündel did to sheep-dip its assassins (Leuchter testified twice in defense of Zündel).
Beware of "leaked" Army reports! It's not the same Army that crossed the Rhine in March of '45. Also, I'd be interested to see the evidence that Hoess's children were threatened.
Nevertheless, I must say that you seem to have done some extensive research, even down to reading the Nuremberg transcripts (which I haven't); and you've raised some caveats that I probably haven't taken seriously enough. The point you made elsewhere about the extermination of the European working-class leadership, how it was eclipsed by the Holocaust as the outstanding crime of Hitler, was one I should have been making myself. Every time I hear some ignoramus say that the Germans didn't put up a fight against fascism (and recently I even heard someone add "as Americans have"), I want to join George Carlin and call it quits. But Carlin was a cynic, and cynicism nourishes capitalism and, inevitably, fascism.
Fred Leuchter is the world's leading authority on executions. He has a degree in [ugh] Execution Science from John Hopkins. He held contracts with dozens of American states to run their capital punishment processes for them. HE IS THE WORLD'S LEADING EXPERT IN EXECUTING BY GAS. He has been called as an expert witness in by by PROSECUTORS in several American states. It is just absurd to suggest, as you and wikipedia do, that he is inexpert in matters pertaining to execution by gassing. Even Errol Morris concedes this in his film, watch it.
DeleteIt is easy to get people to lie on camera: Remember how many different forensic experts testified that it was Hitler's skull that was dug out of the trench in front of Hitler's bunker? Do you honestly think that none of those anthropologists recognized that the skull was female???????????????????
How many people have given false testimony in the JFK assassination? 911?
Leuchter, before he was sent to Auschwitz, was UNIVERSALLY acknowledged as the leading expert in the field. He determined that the alleged gas chambers were much, much too drafty to be used for the purpose of gassing people. He took samples from the walls and gave them for analysis to labs whose results have been used in American court system and they came back negative. In other words, he is [or was] a state-sanctioned licensed expert in the field; he sent samples for testing to state-sanctioned licensed forensic laboratories and got the results which confirmed what Leuchter had surmised based on the inadequacy of alleged gas chambers for the purpose of gassing.
If this is wrong, then they will have to free every prisoner ever convicted based upon tst results from these labs.
Moreover, the tests have been duplicated by Polish, German, and Israeli science teams. If you believed they got different results, don't you think they would have said so?
They changed the signs at Auschwitz from saying gas chambers to simulated gas chambers. Kudos to them for recognizing the truth.
re Auschwitz, Birkenau, and Monowitz [the three camps comprising the Auschwitz complex]: Originally it was alleged that the gassing occurred at Auschwitz, and then expanded into Birkenau after the invasion of USSR. This is a matter of record, and cannot be disputed. Moreover, the recent spate of post-Leuchter bogus holomemoires which now describe seeing prisoners REMOVED from Auschwitz and taken OUTSIDE of AUSCHWITZ to be gassed IS BRAND NEW! Nobody ever said anything like this before the Leuchter Report.
re transcripts. For some reason they are color-coded, and the 'blue' series is the relevant one. I haven't read them in their entirety, just biots and pices. That was enough. [My favorite part was when the American prosecutor [what's his name] brings in the bogus shrunken heads. He had been interrogating Goehring and had been getting his ass kicked by the Nazi. I think that this was probably an afterthought.
The banality of evil was brought home with a vengeance by the yelping of Pasquale's dogs.
ReplyDeleteSurely everybody has yelping dogs from time to time?
Actually, two of my dogs were playing and not fighting. They just decided to have a play fight over a toy during the show. LOL
DeleteOh, and the dogs weren't yelping. LOL I feel bad for anyone who can't tell the difference between a dog growling (be it in play or for real) and a dog yelping. How out of touch with pets can people be? LMAO!
DeleteAlso, to what "evil" are you referring? :)
Yap, whine, bark, yip, whimper whatever.
DeleteYou know, Pasquale telling the difference between a dog growling and a dog yelping has never been much of a fucking issue for me. Not since I shot my last dog for stealing my wooden leg and burying it in the back garden. Okay, call me a failure if you want. How out of touch with pets can people be? How out of touch with pets do you want people to be? Fucking vermin the lot of them.
As for the reference to evil? Certainly not directed at you or your good wife, Pasquale or your laughing ( I swear they were laughing ) dogs. The "Banality Of Evil"
is a book about the "Final Solution" written by Hannah Arendt. I'm sure you know this.
Addio, amico mio!!
Jas, saying "whatever" is the sign of a weak argument. ;)
DeleteYou know, Jas, I don't know if you're kidding about shooting a dog or not. I hope you're kidding because if you are not kidding, it is a clear sign that you have some very angry tendencies.
Jas, if you are supporting me and Fetzer and I misunderstood your joke about my dogs, that's cool.
I thought you were taking a jab at me is all.
If I misunderstood your joke, tell me and stop talking crazy.
LOL
DeleteWhat is writing LOL a sign of? LOL Oops, there I go again!! LOL Oops, there I......Whatever.
So you're a psychologist now, Pasquale?
Angry tendencies? Yeah, right. Angry tendencies? What's writing "angry tendencies" a sign of, Pasquale? Angry tendencies?? LOL Oops........
You thought I was taking a jab at you, Pasquale?
Really? I wonder what that's a sign of? Paranoia?
LOL Oops!!
Go lighten up with your dogs, Pasquale.
Is this the same DiFabrizio guy who made sick jokes about the shot to JFK's throat by saying "he (DiFabrizio) didn't swallow it " i.e he didn't believe it during an interview with Jim Fetzer on live radio? It's in Jim Fetzer's Real Deal podcast archives. So funny DiFabrizio said it twice: " I don't swallow it. I don't swallow it ". That's what I call talking crazy.
DeleteSpare us your bullshit, DiFabrizio.
George, spare us your BS. LOL The "swallow it" joke was a crack about a theory someone put out that the wound to JFK's throat was an exit wound from a fragment of a bullet that hit JFK's head. It's highly unlikely, especially when you consider the fact that all the doctors at Parkland Hospital regarded the throat wound as nothing but an ENTRANCE wound. So, "George," how silly do you feel now?
DeleteWhat are you, George, a joke critic? You sound like a buffoon. If you want real comedy, tune into a comedy station or just read your own writings. ;)
Jas,
Deleteif you actually read what I wrote, I was ASKING you if you were taking a jab at me. Obviously, you didn't read what I wrote, and with your tone, I'll assume that you were, "Jas."
Don't get all "Jas-ed" up, Jas. My dogs were PLAYING with a toy. Anyone who has raised dogs know that they grown when they play too. You're a piece of...work, Jas. ;)
".......that the innocent people gassed, worked, or allowed to starve to death could not have been 6 million, but were only an acceptable few hundreds of thousands."
ReplyDeleteJim! Is this the kind of comment you now want to encourage or provoke on your blog?
".......that the innocent people gassed, worked, or allowed to starve to death could not have been 6 million, but were only an acceptable few hundreds of thousands."
This is nothing short of Nazism.
The embedded link (activated when you right-click on
Delete"an acceptable few hundreds of thousands") takes you to a film scene in which Nuremberg judge Haywood (played by Spencer Tracey) tells the condemned Nazi judge played by Burt Lancaster (who was probably portraying Hjalmar Schacht), in answer to his "Those millions of people: I never knew that it would come to that....", replied, "Herr Janning, it came to that the first time you sentenced a man to death you knew to be innocent." I apologize for making the comment depend on the links. The linked material makes it clear that what I was saying was bitter sarcasm. My comment was addressing two facets I found particularly repugnant in the Real Deal interview: (1) It approached the question with exactly the sort of apologetics the more skillful of the racial theorists of the Third Reich would give, were they alive today, and (2) it assumes that what was done to innocent Jews (in how many 100s of thousands?) was not genocide if the numbers murdered were actually inflated by Zionists or other opponents of Hitler to the 6-million figure. I think that Judgment at Nuremberg, despite its shortcomings, was a commendable treatment of the ethical questions.
As for the actual figure of 6 million, it depends on the demographic criteria and who did the counting. Germany was notable as a nation that, even before the unification of 1871, had an especially large number of Jewish converts to Christianity; these Christian Jews and non-religious Jews would not have been counted as "Jews" in a pre-Nazi census, but might have been counted as Jews by the Nazis. In fact, I know of a rabbi who believes that God brought the Holocaust on Germany because of the apostasy of the German Jews. Only 200,000 religious Jews live in Germany today: how many non-religious or converted Jews would be difficult to estimate. Tens of thousands, perhaps millions, of Jews left the German principalities to live in Poland when the Polish king took a Jewess as his queen; pre-war Poland was ruled by the fascist Pilzudski regime, which I wouldn't want to recommend as a reliable source for a demographic. Although there were probably millions of religious Jews in pre-war Poland and Ukraine, there may have been millions more ethnic Jews who no longer practiced Judaism. There were just too many migrations and conversions of the ethnic-Jewish populations to be certain of an accurate count, but a figure of six million and growing would not be an unreasonable guess for the total number of pre-war Europeans of Jewish ethnicity.
I recommend strongly the anti-Hollywoodism article of Professor Rich Gibson of San Diego State University entitled "Against Schindler's List". It reinforces the just criticisms Dave Fryett has leveled in response to my comments, as well as some of the criticisms that I've made of the DiFabrizio interview, while at the same time taking an anti-fascist (and decidedly NOT antisemitic) stance from which to wipe the floor with Steven Spielberg and the official Holocaust narrative.
Jakob Everardski, where is your quote coming from? Are you sure you're not quoting the word "acceptible" out of context?
Delete"acceptible"
DeleteI never quoted this nonexistent word "acceptible" out of anything. Do you mean "acceptable"?
So, Jacob, naturally, you take a typo and use it to avoid answering a supid question. You should get a coookie for that. LOL Nice try.
Delete" So, Jacob, naturally, you take a typo and use it to avoid answering a supid question. You should get a coookie for that. LOL Nice try. "
DeleteJudging by your photo at http://911scholars.ning.com, I think it's pretty clear you've eaten all the "cookies", Pasquale.
For those who think anything the see on youtube or on TV or at the cinema is true, please watch this:
ReplyDeletehttp://saveourcola.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/hollywood-and-propaganda/
DeleteFor those who don't think anything they see on YouTube or on TV or at the cinema is true, please watch this video on YouTube:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--kuqZP-sys
I've noticed the same standard arguments from people who want to defend holocaust propaganda. The latest is that "Youtube" links are not reliable. If I direct someone to Youtube link that is a link to a documentary, it's valid. It's the same as handing someone a DVD and saying "Watch this."
DeleteIf tell someone that an interview was done with someone and direct them to a Youtube link that literally shows the person saying it, that is valid, no? :)
If I say that the twin towers in the World Trade Center came down at virtually free fall speed or basically 10 seconds each, I can easily direct them to multiple Youtube videos showing that event too.
So, those who like to poo-poo using Youtube for ANY kind of research at all are simply gatekeepers. They are trying to steer the rest of you away from actually learning something.
Keep in mind that I'm not advocating that research be done by only using sources like Youtube. I have, however, watched many documentaries on Youtube, news footage on Youtube, interviews on Youtube, and in that capacity, Youtube is a great source.
I don't think that anybody isd arguing that there is nothing of value on youtube, merely that everything found there has to be subjected to the same rational scrutiny as anything else. If you actually follow the link above and watch the video, you will see what I mean. Anybody who thinks that youtube, wikipedia, social media et. al. are not staked out by the security services and subjected to as much disinfo' as the mainstream media etc. is just fooling themselves.
DeleteDave, that is a very good point. I agree.
Delete
ReplyDeleteI beseech ye in the bowels of Christ.
Think it possible, ye may be mistaken.
Anne Marie, what are you trying to tell us here? Who are you directing your comment to?
DeleteGood luck continuing to write for Gordon Jew Duff.
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ReplyDeleteI want to say to Atlanta bill I really respect the fact that you are willing to change your mind on things, that is highly admirable. Obviously there was unjust treatment of many people by the nazis, I think the thing that really gets under my skin is the way some Jews have exploited the pain and suffering and in some cases exaggerated to lay a guilt trip on the world so they can do no wrong. Most Jews will admit and often joke about how guilt tripping is a part of their culture, but never in this context. It is abhorrent to the memory of the Jews that did suffer that this occurs. Again, good for you.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Larry. Getting it right is an ongoing and ever-changing process, as the history of Scholars for 9/11 Truth shows - so it's not something out of keeping with a blog site of our benefactor and mentor, Dr James Henry Fetzer. The 9/11 Truth movement has taught me -perhaps more than any other involvement- that it's d*mned hard to know whether a source's facts are authentic. There are theories and speculations based on little more than an ardent hope that all the indications point to the evidence they rely on as being sound - and I'd say that's true in most cases. Often, or maybe with most of them, their only support lies in their explanatory value when taken together with other facts that are themselves of debatable value. Even when one sees the unmistakable signs that a source is committed to a suspected school of thought or is promoting a particular cult, it can be a mistake to write the source off as limited solely to that commitment or promotion.
DeleteI'm increasingly given to understand from familiar voices in the paleo-conservative/liberty movement that the Talmud is all about Jewish arrogance. I'll have to go back and reread it because, when I studied the great Talmudic rabbis, what I came away with was that the highest social value for them was good manners. That's why I fancy that I can see more commonality between the present defenders of Zionism and those who would defend Adolf Hitler than either would want to admit. I had a Jewish friend (who died recently) whom I once challenged to defend the terrorism that went into the founding of the State of Israel. Joel smiled and replied, "It works, doesn't it?" That didn't stop me from liking him. You just can't stop trying to bring out the better side of people!
Absolutely.
DeleteI've noticed the same standard arguments from people who want to defend holocaust propaganda. The latest is that "Youtube" links are not reliable. If I direct someone to Youtube link that is a link to a documentary, it's valid. It's the same as handing someone a DVD and saying "Watch this."
ReplyDeleteIf tell someone that an interview was done with someone and direct them to a Youtube link that literally shows the person saying it, that is valid, no? :)
If I say that the twin towers in the World Trade Center came down at virtually free fall speed or basically 10 seconds each, I can easily direct them to multiple Youtube videos showing that event too.
So, those who like to poo-poo using Youtube for ANY kind of research at all are simply gatekeepers. They are trying to steer the rest of you away from actually learning something.
Just found this.
ReplyDeleteEurope has always been crowded. Just look at the map. Germany in 1933, when Hitler came to power, had a population around 66 million people: this in a country of about 138,000 square miles, or about twice the size of the state of Wisconsin! That's around 478 people per square mile. For comparison, the population of Wisconsin in 2006 (I can't find the figure for 1933) was about 5.5 million, for a density of only 38 people per square mile - in our modern day! It doesn't take a mathematical genius to figure out why Hitler wanted to expand, or for that matter to figure out why so many Germans emigrated to Wisconsin in the 19th Century.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_German_Nazis_invade_other_European_countries
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't say how many of the 66 million were Jews.
Was it 6 million?
That is a fact. The attackers of Fetzer and I cannot account for why the magic number, 6 million, was referenced over 200 times BEFORE Hitler was in power. The ONLY argument they can make, which isn't much of an argument, is that all of those references are fake. LOL
ReplyDeleteAs for the Jewish population, I don't have that figure off hand, but I do know, just like Fetzer does as well as others, that census numbers before and after the war do not show that 6 million Jewish people disappeared.
Barr March, why was "6 million" referenced over and over again from before even WWI? Where did they get that number from?
ReplyDeleteWhat was the Jewish population of Europe before Hitler came to power in 1933 and at the beginning of the 20th century?
DeleteBarr March, why was "6 million" referenced over and over again from before even WWI? Where did they get that number from?
DeleteI have no idea, Pasco. I am not Jewish. I would be interested to know when the first recordable references to 6 million were made and by whom. Also would like to know what the population of Jews was at the time each reference was made. You mention 200 times. If we had details of the time (year) each reference was made and check what the the population of Jews was at that time, it might throw some light on how and when this figure of 6 million emerged and where it came from.
ReplyDeletePerhaps that was the Jewish population at the time. Were they simply using the available figure of 6 million as a sort of shorthand for ALL the Jews? Do you know what the number of Jews was at the time these references were made?
In order to proceed we need to know what the Jewish population of Europe was at the time the 6 million references were made.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Europe
ReplyDeleteThe pre-World War II population of European Jews is estimated at close to 9 million.[citation needed] It is believed that around 6,000,000 European Jews died in the Holocaust of 1940-1945.
Further population drain is due to emigration, and the current Jewish population of Europe is estimated at ca. 2 million (0.3%), composed of
Ashkenazi Jews (about 1.4 million, mainly in France, Germany, Russia, Ukraine, the United Kingdom, Hungary and Belgium) Sephardi Jews (about 0.4 million, mainly in France, Greece and Bosnia and Herzegovina) Mizrahi Jews (about 0.3 million, mainly in France, Georgia and the United Kingdom)
Italian Jews (some 45,000, mostly Italian)
Romaniotes (some 6,000, mostly Greek)
Georgian Jews (some 8,500, mostly in Georgia, Russia and Belgium) Armenian Jews (some 750, mostly in Armenia)
Crimean Karaites (some 1,500, mainly in Ukraine, Lithuania and Poland) Krymchaks (Jews of Turkic descent in Crimea; some 2000, mainly in Ukraine, Georgia and Russia)
I like how the discussion has digressed into population number, which I am glad to discuss too. This does not answer the question that Fetzer and I were asking. WHY were there over 200 references to the number 6 million with regard to Jewish people BEFORE World War II even started? Where did they get this number from? :)
ReplyDeleteLet me be more clear. Obviously population numbers matter.
ReplyDeleteI like how the discussion has digressed into population number, which I am glad to discuss too. This does not answer the question that Fetzer and I were asking. WHY were there over 200 references to the number 6 million with regard to Jewish people BEFORE World War II even started? Where did they get this number from? :)
Do not adopt that supercilious and condescending tone. There is no need to be "more" clear. It is perfectly clear already. Can you provide dates and sources for the over " 200 references to the
ReplyDeletenumber 6 million with regard to Jewish people BEFORE World War II even started? ". It's not rocket science and it is not a "digression" into " population number ". In order to know where these 6 million references came from and what basis they have in fact, we must first ascertain what the population of Jews was at the time those " 200 references to the number 6 million with regard to Jewish people " were made. Will you please now give us the dates and sources for those over " 200 references to the number 6 million with regard to Jewish people BEFORE World War II even started."?
It is now incumbent upon you to provide the necessary data as to where "they" got that number. You have the "over 200 references". Now do it!
Wow, Carlo. Whatever "tone" you are getting from me is just a mirror of yours. Like I said, population numbers do matter, BUT, my question was where did the magic "six million" number come from if it was mentioned so many times? Carlo, since you didn't listen to the podcast good enough, here is the source of the references. Now, what's your answer? LOL
Deletehttp://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/145-references-to-6000000-jews-prior-to.html?zx=6dd1a7ca59441a4
Hey Carlo, does the link answer your question? Are you going to claim that the references are fake? LOL
DeleteHere's the link again just for you, sweetheart.
http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/145-references-to-6000000-jews-prior-to.html?zx=6dd1a7ca59441a4
Hey, Pasquale!! Thanks for the comment! 19 days to reply??!! You're not exactly the quickest greyhound out of the trap. Are you, Pasquale? Still, I suppose 19 days is not bad for an Italian. I bet if I asked you to make a pizza or an ice cream sundae, you'd do it in no time at all. Anyway, the question of where your 200 references to the figure 6 million originated is still
Deleteunanswered (by you).
In my comment of March 30 2013 I wrote:
"It is now incumbent upon you to provide the necessary data as to where "they" got that number. You have the "over 200 references".Now do it!"
Your comment of April 18(?!), 2013 in reply to my comment of March 30, 2013 adds nothing to the matter under discussion. You have merely pasted in a link which I am supposed to read.(?!!).
I will repeat that part of my comment of March 30, 2013 where I wrote:
"It is now incumbent upon you to provide the necessary data as to where "they" got that number. You have the "over 200 references".Now do it!"
What I want from you, Pasquale is a comprehensive list of your 200 references to the figure 6 million with dates and sources all cross-referenced so that I and interested fellow blog readers can see exactly how, where and when your 200 references to the figure 6 million emerged....and I want that list posted here!!
Simply posting a link doesn't really cut the crap, Pasquale. So get your finger out and do some real work on the subject, Pasquale.
Will you do that for me, Pasquale? Will you, honey?
......
According to Wikipedia "The pre-World War II population of European Jews is estimated at close to 9 million.[citation needed]".
ReplyDeleteObviously populations increase and decrease.
When can we say with certainty that the preWorld War 2 population of European Jews was closer to 6 million?
Jim, let me know if you get my email.
ReplyDeleteI bet you do a lot of swallowing, Colon.
ReplyDeleteKind of an occupational hazard as far
as you're concerned, Colin.
Goes with the territory.
If you know what I mean.
The pre-war numbre for Jews in Germany proper is .6 million.
ReplyDeleteHistorian Lenni Brenner has done a lot of demographic research on Jews and a google search may yield results.
The 6 million number comes from Herzl I believe. It was his estimate of how many Jews lived in Great Russia, which in the late nineteenth century meant included Baltic states, the Ukraine, and Poland, all areas with substantial Jewish populations.
He is the founder of modern Zionism, and the first person that I know of to express support for a policy of anti-semitism. His hope, as he explained, was to make life so unbearable for Jews in Europe so bad that they will be forced to migrate to Palestine.
It is very likely that the 6 millin number comes from him, and is probably fairly accurate account. It is probably a bit less certain that the stories of the 6 million being tormented or degraded or killed etc came from him also. He died in abt '03 I believe [shortly before oil was discoverd in '05 in the Mideast, which is what got the Brits and the Jewish bankers to change theior position and then support a homeland for the MJews in Palestine]. Some of the articles Jim read were published while Herzl was still alive, so it may have been his work. But even if not him, then by Zionists certainly.
A few minutes online today, I discovered an interesting set of comparative "facts". First, from the Jewishgen.org website, is a graph of jewish growth from 1800 to 1948. Worth noting here is a doubling of population every some fourty years between 1800 and 1914. As compared to overall world population over the same period, world population per wikipedia between 1800 and 1914 went from 1 billion to 2 billion (approximately doubled). Hence, while world population grew at a rate of 100%, jewish world population (according to jewishgen.org) grew at a rate of 435%, over FOUR times that of world population during the same period leading up to WWII.
ReplyDeleteFrom the same sources above, from 1800 to 2012, Jewish growth rate (434%) has normalized to that of world population growth (588%).
I'll let more intelligent minds than mine connect the dots from here.
PS - fun "fact", according to wikipedia, the current jewish population in Israel according to wikipedia just reachd 6 million and US jews are a very close 2nd. Is this deja vu all over again?
6 Mi. European jews
6 Mi. Israeli jews
6 Mi. US jews
You do the math.
Colin, I don't know about the moon issue, but I can tell you that, in my opinion and Fetzer's opinion, the "Holocaust" numbers just don't add up. LOL
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ReplyDeletePasquale DiFabrizio said:
ReplyDelete"I've noticed the same standard arguments from people who want to defend holocaust propaganda. The latest is that "Youtube" links are not reliable."
Yet those same Jewish holocaust myth believers would defend and find pro-holocaust YouTube videos entirely "reliable." Disgusting hypocrites.
Even if the National Socialists really did "exterminate" six-million Jews, it pales, pales in comparison to the sixty-plus-million non-Jews that Jewish communism is responsible for "exterminating", from the Czar and his royal family to the Russian intelligentsia ("kill the best gentiles") on down to the peasantry via outright executions, working to death in subzero Siberian gulags or starving to death in artificial famines such as the one that took place in Ukraine, events National Socialists were very cognizant of unlike Americans, Brits, etc.
What I've come to accept is that no amount of evidence, documentation, etc. exposing (or lack of the same supporting) the Jewish holocaust myth, "the hoax of the twentieth century" like Prof. Arthur Butz correctly dubbed it, most minds will remain CLOSED on this subject. They will continue to believe that this holotale is a historical 'fact' thanks to years of holocaust propaganda and indoctrination via television, Hollywood films, and schools (but no mention, of course, the far, far greater number of victims of Jewish communism).
TelAvivSol remarked:
ReplyDelete"The main point for truly ethical judgment of Nuremberg..."
There was absolutely not one thing "ethical" about the Nuremberg show trials. Zero. Zip. Nothing. Nada. It was the biggest judicial travesty the world has ever seen.
Reports of widespread torture at the postwar American-run "war crimes" trials at Dachau leaked out, resulting in so many protests that a formal investigation was eventually carried out. A US Army Commission of inquiry consisting of Pennsylvania Judge Edward van Roden and Texas Supreme Court Judge Gordon Simpson officially confirmed the charges of gross abuse. German defendants, they found, were routinely tortured at Dachau with savage beatings, burning matches under fingernails, kicking of testicles, months of solitary confinement, and threats of family reprisals. Low ranking prisoners were assured that their "confessions" would be used only against their former superiors in the dock. Later, though, these hapless men found their own "confessions" used against them when they were tried in turn. High ranking defendants were cynically assured that by "voluntarily" accepting all responsibility themselves they would thereby protect their former subordinates from prosecution.
One Dachau trial court reporter was so outraged at what was happening there in the name of justice that he quit his job. He testified to a US Senate subcommittee that the "most brutal" interrogators had been three German-born Jews. Although operating procedures at the Dachau trials were significantly worse than those used at Nuremberg, they give some idea of the spirit of the "justice" imposed on the vanquished Germans.
Virtually all of the US investigators who brought cases before American military courts at Dachau were "Jewish refugees from Germany" who "hated the Germans," recalled Joseph Halow, a US Army court reporter at the Dachau trials in 1947. "Many of the investigators gave vent to their hated by attempting to force confessions from the Germans by treating them brutally," including "severe beatings."
The case of Gustav Petrat, a German who had served as a guard at the Mauthausen, was not unusual. After repeated brutal beatings by US authorities, he broke down and signed a perjured statement. He was also whipped and threatened with immediate shooting. Petrat was prevented from securing exonerating evidence, and even potential defense witnesses were beaten and threatened to keep them from testifying. After a farcical trial by a US military court at Dachau, Petrat was sentenced to death and hanged in late 1948. He was 24 years old.
Use of torture to produce incriminating statements has not been limited to postwar Germany, of course. Such techniques have been systematically used by governments around the world. During the Korean War, American airmen held as prisoners by the Communist North Koreans made detailed statements "confessing" to their roles in waging germ warfare. Under physical and psychological torture, 38 US airmen "admitted" dropping bacteriological bombs that caused disease epidemics and claimed many Korean civilian lives. These statements were later shown to be false, and the airmen repudiated them after returning to the United States. Their phony confessions were the same kind of evidence given by Rudolf Höss and others at the Nuremberg trials. Under similar circumstances, Americans proved at least as ready to "confess" to monstrous but baseless crimes as Germans.
more here:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Weberb.html
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ReplyDelete"The banality of evil was brought home with a vengeance by the yelping of Pasquale's dogs.
The banality of ignorance "was brought home with a vengeance" by repeated postings of nonsensical nothings in an effort, as long time denizens of the 'net know all too well, to disrupt, disturb and derail the conversation.
My only question is: are you a troll or a Jew? You're definitely one or the other or perhaps both?
CarloApril 20, 2013 at 3:29 PM
ReplyDelete"Hey, Pasquale!! Thanks for the comment! 19 days to reply??!! You're not exactly the quickest greyhound out of the trap. Are you, Pasquale? Still, I suppose 19 days is not bad for an Italian. I bet if I asked you to make a pizza or an ice cream sundae, you'd do it in no time at all. Anyway, the question of where your 200 references to the figure 6 million originated is still unanswered (by you). Anyway, the question of where your 200 references to the figure 6 million originated is still ananswered (by you)."
Try reading The First Holocaust -
Jewish Fund Raising Campaigns with Holocaust Claims During and After World War One, wise ass.
http://vho.org/dl/ENG/tfh.pdf
Maybe, just maybe, Pasquale has a life outside of the internet (unlike you). My advice is you better utilize your free time by wanking-off to porn or play some video game for your contribution here is less than ZERO, you holocaust myth-believing holofool. LOL.
WANKER!!
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" Maybe, just maybe, Pasquale has a life outside of the internet."
DeleteWhat kind of claptrap is that? How dare you come in here and defame Pasquale DiFabrizio with your libelous and outrageous comments! Pasquale DiFabrizio is a a man of integrity and character who most certainly " has a life outside of the internet." There is not and never has been any suggestion, question or doubt that Pasquale DiFabrizio has and has always had a productive, rewarding and contributive life "outside of the internet".
There is no " Maybe, just maybe " about it!!
I suggest you apologize to Pasquale DiFabrizio immediately for your groundless and ill-advised imputation and slur.