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Ill be more to the point.Mr Charini, are you...?a-incredibly dullb-crazyc-an operativeJudy Wood, Morgan Reynolds, Pete Santilli, Ed Charini, LOL. I bet Santilli loves Charinis work since it belongs in a mental institution. Holy crap.
Jim, Ed Chiarini is a disinformation agent with a very specific mission.Many were duped by him when he first made attention after the Giffords shooting. At the time it was hard to explain why Chiarini discredited himself with increasingly fantastic and impossible claims.Many thought he was simply mad, while others posited a malicious agenda, but no one could provide the solution as to his purpose. However, through the passage of time, it has become clear what devious purpose he fulfills.To understand the solution we must accept that elements of the basic premise Chiarini argues are in fact true, namely: actors do collaborate with shadowy institutions to fabricate false news events, false flags, and other hoaxes in a wider propaganda campaign against the American people.However, far from enlightening his audience, Chiarini'a true goal is to discredit the very real phenomena he supposedly exposes by overwhelming the true evidence with self-evidently false evidence.By honey trapping truth consumers with actual exposures and good information, he creates a following of sincere truth searchers -- obscured mostly by his sock puppets and shill believers. Once they are all baited into his unorthodox paradigm of viewing the world, he intentionally demonstrates ridiculous evidence with a straight face, thus discrediting the whole notion of the political technique and use of actors itself.This was the same strategy Rove used to bait Dan Rather, and which you hypothesized might have been used with the book Regicide. Rove might be behind Chiarini as he has a Haliburton resume and Air Force background (Gordon Duff will agree that the Air Force is the most treasonous of armed forces.)Sandy Hook, and the Giffords shooting before it, has shown the world that the government does indeed fabricate news events to prosecute its nefarious agenda. I do not think a shooting happened. And many agree with me, at least based on the limited evidence. But the chorus of legitimate critics who dared to voice the obvious on Sandy Hook were soon shouted down by many truth leaders, all who were once burned by Chiarini. They have discarded the notion there were actors almost entirely based on the cognitive dissonance created by Ed Chiarini and his various sycophants. Many were once believers in him, as I was.Consider why he is targeting James Tracy. Ed is no friend of the truth movement. His information is a two-fold weapon. Leaders in the truth movement are most often the subject of his warped photo comparisons, clearly designed to seed doubt and cognitive dissonance regarding the research of these individuals. And to the wider lay audience, he is attempting to caricature conspiracy researchers and the truth movement through his own example. Imagine what enemy image Chiarini is conjuring to demonize conspiracy researchers, painting them with the same brush of incredulousness.But those wise to his game know better than to give him credence. And they all agree he is very dangerous to the truth movement. I am shocked he was on your show, but it is a testament to your open mind, Jim. But it is clear that there is an aggressive push back occurring from counter-revolutionary sponsors. First Pete Santilli attacks you, and now "Dallas Gold Bug".Be careful. Ed's MO is to turn on those who give him a platform, once they realize how many of his ridiculous claims are unfounded. Soon he will claim Jim Fetzer is (insert actor here). Just watch.
Your damn straight I'm no friend of the tooofer movement. It was created from the minds of those I expose. If you don't believe me then why wont they address this "CRAZY" person and prove me wrong? They wont because they know they are the problem. You can attack me all you want. I could give a shit, but I don't because I've been doing this for 2 years now and not one of these pathetic maggots can address the work. SO for those of us who have a set and the ability to think critically we see through your adhom attacks and your baseless elementary school name calling , to see that each day you fail to address the facts is just one more day you get to look like the fools you really are. See I back my work up, I dont need to attack those who disagree, I simply show them more evidence, But for those who attack without providing ONE SHRED of ANYTHING to back up their insults, I have, and I will continue calling them out to their face and watching them cut and run. This isn't my first rodeo, and you sure as hell don't look or sound like a cowboy to me. Maybe your uncle Tex Ridder (RockyPUSS) but you not even close. (To the readers of this, I know who this is writing this Bullshit I have exposed him many many times, I know the language he uses) so enjoy the little time you have (free) that is, because if I were in your position with the potential of 400-Million pissed off Americans now finally coming around to your families disgusting past , and their current day mission to remove the guns from our hands, I wouldn't be spending any time writing on the web. I would spend it getting as much distance between we the people and you the criminal. Don't even think about Australia, I hear I have quite a following down under and they are more than willing to keep an eye out for us all even thought they are loyal to the crown, it was the crown that shit on them back in the day putting them there. Payback are a Bitch my (cough cough) friend.
I fully agree with ¨Solfeggio's¨ excellent analysis. Yes, false flag events involving actors and/or secret agents do happen! Such discovery is a good thing. However, the sure-fire method to ruin a good thing, is to exaggerate, to make outlandish claims in the same domain, and thus try to destroy the good thing. That is exactly what agent-provocateur Ed Chirarini is doing. He is HELPING the false flag events that are created by actors and agents. Once again, false flag events happen all the time, but making true claims mixed later with outlandisch, exaggerated claims in the same domain, self-destroys the credibility of agents-provocateurs such as Ed Chiarini. So, do as Eric Jon Phelps suggests for such cases: Eat the meat, spit out the bones.
There is a simpler explanation. I am sure Chiarini digs the "operative" accusations, since it feeds into his numerous fantasies, but...THE MAN SUFFERS FROM FACE BLINDNESS. About 2% of the population is said to suffer from it to one degree or another. In the worst cases, they can fail to recognize their own mother. Do Ed's followers also suffer from Face Blindness (Prospagnosia)? I doubt it all of them do. Some of them jumped on the Conspiracy Train and, lacking the basic quality of discernment, rode the Crazy Train all the way to Oz.The most seriously-afflicted may realize they have Face Blindness in their fifties of sixties. Others are not so lucky, and live out their entire lives, not being able to recognize their mother or next-door neighbor when they are in an unfamiliar setting.We can only hope Ed one day realizes the nature of his problem.After all, Jim, Ed is not influencing anybody but major-league dingbats... how can he do any serious damage?
I think mr Goldbug is discrediting the infiltration movement. Maybe he is a truther acting as an infiltrator to discredit government psyop agents.
THERE ARE NO "TRUTH LEADERS." End transmission.
right on. Every man is accountable for their own actions. I dont care what you call yourself what you look like who you pray to or vote for. You are the same as me and I stand by my actions right or wrong. My actions come from my integrity, and my understanding of the principals of du unto others. So when I gave an oath while in the Air Force, I meant it. There is no man made obstruction that will cause me to change course. Jones tried to buy my site and me out (see the communications between Aaron and myself that I posted to FB) and what did I tell them? Well you still see my site up don't you. So to all the little family members I say this, and Im sure everyone who is a real person will agree, if you dont have the balls to use your birth name and back your words then you might as well be talking to your self, because I will never fear another man especially one who cant face me and tell it to my face what he stands for. Cowards, all of you actor/family members. I dont need anyone but myself to win the war but I know Im not alone. We are not afraid and since we have identified the source of the problems now (thanks to their own arrogance by leaving the photos out for anyone to see) we can for once in this countries history come together as one voice and focus on those who ARE REAL and RESPONSIBLE for the damage we have suffered. No more BS guy in a cave crap. We have addresses, we know the assets, but best of all we know your pseudonyms and birth names.
Psst: you have FACE BLINDNESS!!! Look it up!!!
He totally has face blindness... Haha
I don't believe that EC is a disinfo agent. He does have a lot of hits and some misses I believe. I just think he's overzealous sometimes in his analysis. For example that Joyce Reiley is the wife of Ron Paul. Why would Joyce have him on the show if she was one of these actors? Why would the people who are doing this want even one of their actors exposed?
Misses?Like the (n)ear shot that Adolf Hitler and Walt Disney where played by actor Kermit Roosevelt?LOL, nobody is that stupid by mistake, it is intentional.He wants to make conspiracy research look bad.But as I jokingly pointed out, he actually makes dis-info agents look clumsy and stupid.The gov infiltration is not supposed to be this obvious. They dont care if 1% can see the charade but when 25% or more can tell this is an intelligence operation, then the operation has failed. In this case I believe almost everybody who looks at this "research" can tell it is not sincere, only made out to discredit conspiracy research in general. I really do not understand why Prof Fetzer wasted time on this guy, unless to expose him as the fraudster he is.
Its called controlled opposition. She attempted to keep me on just the Giffords event and that would have worked but finding the photos opened the door to identifying the actors real identity. She offered me my own show but I told her I would not be a gate keeper of the information. I did not control the investigations and at that time it was heading towards Disney, I told her knowing they are owned by them but again I will not suppers the information I find. SO we ended the relationship. Which is a good thing considering that she is a fraud and I found out by her won voice that peter recorded when she would call him and spill her guts about all the lies. You can hear it in her own words just google Hanoi Joyce and you will learn allot about miss Riley. Not her real name BTW
I guess you didnt see the fact that the hitler and disney house are the same?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2-pVqS1Tt4Oh there goes that crazy Ed backing his shit up with facts. I guess you will not be watching the video as you probably got a tour of it when Quentin Roosevelt was around.
This guy Mr Ed Charini has one great imagination. Thank God I am not famous or he would say I am really Danny DeVito and that would make Fetzer really Christopher Lloyd and Barrett would really be Michael J Fox
I see you don't have a the ability to think logically as well so you are really scraping the bottom of the gene pool then. Why not address the work? OH that would mean a debate. Well if I'm so crazy and you are not, then you should be able to make quick work of me, correct? Ok you go firs, or would you like me to. (I would advise you to go first you never know what CRAZY fact I might pull out of my ass)
So, you say John F Kennedy is Jimmy Carter... and you want people to address your "work"...You say Tina Fey is Sarah Pailin and you want us to address your "work"? Give us all a break, and STFU.
FACE BLINDNESS (Prosopagnosia). YOU HAVE IT.I'd say "get professional help", but there really isn't any. You'll have it until the day you die. But maybe confronting it will help.Your pal, George Burns ("Andre the Giant" - wink!)
Best quotes from Jim's interview with Ed Charini:1/ "It's absolutely crazy when you think about it."(It's absolutely crazy even if you don't think about it. It's crap)2/ "They don't talk because they're family."(Is this guy for real? Everybody knows that, one way or another, the FAMILY will be the FIRST to talk about it.)All the world's an earlobe. Friends. Romans, countrymen overlay your ears that I may see who the fuck you really are.
If you cant trust your family who can you trust? Address the work? nope you fail once again.
Solfeggio's 6:34 comment above was absolutely on the mark about this Chiarini/Gold-Bug character, although I would suspect his working under the direction of Cass Sunstein rather than Karl Rove, simply because Rove's slimy web of deception has historically been used to further lower-level/partisan-politics conspiracies while Sunstein answers directly to the evil string-pullers much further behind the curtain. Chiarini does seem to have polished his "cognitive infiltration" act quite a bit since he undertook his current mission to discredit honest research into "role-playing" psyops. His infantile, on-line temper tantrums (when his credibility was challenged by the plucky SeptemberClues gang a while back) were nowhere to be seen when Dr. Fetzer expressed doubts about Chiarini's blatantly impossible "matches" between popular entertainers and high-profile politicians. Instead, the dude just brushed off Jim's well-founded sceptisim and kept ploughing ahead with ever more ridiculous identity-matching assertions, buttressed by flimsy assurances that "photo forensics" always prove him right.Like the comparable (albeit with different tactics) disinfo shill Pete Santilli, Chiarini easily revealed himself to be a definite latecomer to 9/11 research, via his ignorance of primary facts that were "out there" long ago. In particular I was struck by both his ignorance of, and indifferance to, the mysterious role that Warren Buffett played in hosting a 9/11-morning "golf party" for WTC-connected bigwigs at the Strategic Air Command headquarters near Omaha.Even BEFORE Chiarini's initial publicising of fraud and impersonation in the Gabrielle Giffords psyop began to wildly expand into the self-discrediting realm of the absurd, I was suspicious of his motives -- due to his touting of his teenage notoriety as a valued assistant to the VERY PROBLEMATIC Robert Groden, who was EXPOSED, long ago (by his former writing partner H.E. Livingstone) as having a "JFK agenda" that was, at certain strategic moments, functioning in support of "the dark side". And let's not forget that Groden and Fetzer have "agreed to differ" (the latter being ever the gentlemanly professor emeritus) over the grandaddy of all video-fakery schemes -- THE MASSIVELY ALTERED ZAPRUDER FILM!!! Yes, the establishment press-published, "esteemed photo expert," Robert Groden, still insists that it's genuine. Hah!'Nuff said. For now.
Get your facts straight I was the fucking Illustrator to the books. And Livingstone is a fucking pedo that needs to be locked up. As for the rest of your rant. Its once again your opinion and has little to no fact to back your obvious bias up. So come back with some facts and leave your opinion in the sand box, and while your at it since you agree with the giffords finding, Im sure you would like to expound on your efforts to have her removed or something that would show us you can get off your fat ass and do something positive like I strive to do daily. Run your pie hole and we will laugh, bring something to the table and we might listen, throw more mud and it will be your hands the only ones dirty, because we are not playing.
Goldbug's above stream of grade school-level abuse reads very much like the crude drivel allegedly web-posted by Judy Wood during one of her own temper tantrums.My guess is that it's the very same Pentagon/Mossad cubicle-dwelling, salaried troll who wrote both. OTOH, the actors who play the speaking roles (for Skype and broadcast interviews) are obviously of a higher level of background briefing, intelligence and self-control.Hey Sunstein! This is no way to run a consistent disinfo op! Get your shills to sync up their fake identites or find an honest line of work.Pitiful.
Speaking of murky objectives, you were speaking of one Harrison Livingstone, of, as I recall, Baltimore, MD? He (via snail mail, as it was called Back in the Day) sidled up to me when I was editing and publishing THE GRASSY KNOLL GAZETTE, and I ran away as fast as I could go - the level of creepiness was far beyond my tolerance level.I'm getting creeped-out just thinking about it. Yikes.
No doubt Clare Kuehn will just love Ed Charini's "photo forensics" hooey. It goes nicely with Clare's very own "medico-forensics" hokum.
So Jim, how you feel after listening to that? This is how the majority of us feel after a Richard Hook or Ralph Cinque interview...
You've got to be kidding me? I am simply stunned. The work we have put into the Altgens6 ought to convince even the dimmest bulb in the box.
conspiracycritic looks like another of those "know it all" freshman that accidentally stumbled into the graduate seminar....
The media wagging the dog and the ever increasing occurrences of the blue screen popping up, manufacturing news out of thin air(Anderson Cooper) are serious problems which society needs a constant reminder of. this guy just muddies the water. If the media did its job and reported facts and exposed scandal there, would have be no need for a Dorner. This disturbed fellow is a walking red herring, and in addition to that, he has metastasized to your show, infiltrated the no planes movement, And via guilt by association -- discredited it. -- PJ
The points Charini made about 9/11 were logically sound and deserve further consideration. The ear analysis, on the other hand, which comes off like a parody of Dr James Tracy's serious work on the Sandy Hook hoax, has the hallmarks of a tall tale: expanding the highly probable actor tactic of this and similar ops into a universal ruling-class strategy on an impossible scale. Conscious or unconscious, it's in all likelihood a poison pill. Gold Bug (or someone for him) posted a YouTube(c) video of this interview with photographic examples of the facial comparisons (his website is WellAware1.com) in three parts beginning here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX2BAJc9bRw I never forget a face, either; so I think I have a higher-than-average ability to judge whether two faces belong to the same individual. And, looking at the faces Charini says are of the same person, I frankly can't see what he's talking about in most of his evidence. I see a LOT of minor differences (including differences in the ears) that together indicate a high degree of improbability for Charini's claims. The adage that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" is the appropriate test there. Though he comes off as highly logical and sharp-witted, there's a freneticness about Charini that I have a problem with. I get the same impression when listening to Doug Dietrich (a Real Deal guest in August) or David Graeber. Maybe it's a generational thing. I don't want to dismiss Charibini (or either of the other two) as a psyoperative without further evidence, but the very helpful comments here seem to give good grounds for doing it for Charini. I think Dr Fetzer was in stunningly good form in this interview and showed exemplary good judgement. Great job, Jim!
Maybe it would help to have David Ray Griffin on the show to help analyse what is going on. He is an expert on both 911 and Cass Sunsteins cognitive infiltration program.
Jim, is this guy's name Edward L. Chiarini aka Dallasgoldbug? Dallasgoldbug is a well known head and basket case on YouTube who thinks LBJ and John B. Connally were the same person). Did you get any close-ups of Chiarini's earlobes,Jim? Just for the record. You never know who the heck you're talking to these days, Jim. Always best to be on the safe side with these screwballs, JimAre you sure he wasn't a lookalike, Jim? He looks very like Ben Stiller with a goatee out of the "Meet The Fockers" film to me. You know..... the guy who sprayed the cat's tail black. Or maybe he's Dallasgoldbug?Anyhow, Jim. Great show as always. I loved the end where you went quiet as if Chiarini had just blown a silent breezer and you were saying NOTHING.Great show, Jim!!
After watching the illustrated interview by Chiarini a.k.a. Dallas Gold Bug at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX2BAJc9bRw (or all but the 3rd video, which seems to be missing), I can say with confidence that his claim to have any sense of spatial acuity -professional or otherwise- is delusional. Some of his dead ringers are complete mismatches -and laughably so. There's a biography of Chiarini on his website at http://www.wellaware1.com/about_ed_chiarini.htm
I feel Jim is doing the right thing bringing on furballs like Chariani. It's the only way that these charlatans and con men can be exposed for the dingbats that they really are. If Chariani IS Dallasgoldbug then Jim should confront Chariani and ask him outright why he, as Dallasgoldbug, consorts with well known German neonazi trash on his YouTube channel. atlantabill wrote that "Dr Fetzer was in stunningly good form" not only was Jim in "stunningly good form", I think Jim was also stunned by Chariani's inanities and hogwash. I feel the listeners could tell by Jim's famous silences that he was probably thinking to himself: " Is this guy for real?".
wow I see now how you fuck want to play. I know the game, and game on.
The "game" was on a long time ago.Where you been, fuckass?
So it seems that a simple "assay" as to the scientific validity of "ear biometrics" by several independent parties, along with a re-tracing (pardon the pun) of Chiarini's many ear comparisons, is in order.
You may go to my YouTube channel, RichardBDawson for Parts 1 and 2 of the interview. Part 3 will be posted when Ed has completed the integration of photos. In the short time it has been available, several thousand people have watched the material.For those who want to say Ed is affiliated with any agency or movement, I say prove your claims. If there is critical thinking and logic, anyone espousing that should be able to substantiate it with facts.As for any 'truth' movements, the truth doesn't need a movement for it stands by itself. Ed encourages all people to view his work and do more research for themselves. He explains why he comes to the conclusion he has and shows the methods he uses. At first, many thought those asking questions about obvious inconsistencies on 9/11 were 'crazy.' It was the same about JFK's 'assassination'. If you do nothing more than observe and examine what is posted as 'news', Ed will have contributed to you outlook. He does not charge for his work. He is not selling material.
I DID say we need "further evidence" before jumping to conclusions about Ed. But I stand by my statement about his lack of spatial acuity. A few of the facial comparisons I'd say have merit, but most of the rest (except for some obvious wide misses) fall short in some small details. Such details are enough to render the comparison useless. There are only so many possibilities for faces, if minor details are ignored. I myself have had the experience of being talked to by someone who didn't realize I was someone else; and only after listening to the person face to face for some minutes did I become bewildered enough to ask him whether he'd mistaken me for someone else. Apparently, I share the same face with two "doppelgangers" who live in the same metro area as myself. Notice that I never said any of the attempts at comparison were "crazy". So much that seems improbable turns out, on careful examination, to have better explanatory value than "common sense". But this thesis of Ed's that seems to say, if I understand it right, that the world is run by a (however populous) acting troop calls for a revision of some basic assumptions in sociology and political science. Not to say that it's impossible: it just presents us with a gargantuan hurdle that can be overcome only with extraordinarily conclusive evidence. And what I've seen so far is a very unsatisfying and highly flawed offering. The example comparing the two sheriffs is a case in point, in that several implanted prosthetics would have been required to get the desired result (which raises a mountain of questions): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVDCRHulyuE I would warn anyone who's convinced by Ed's facial comparisons not to jump to a hasty acceptance. I sent to an organization I highly respect what I was convinced was a faked photo of the three 7/7 London Bombing suspects that I later found a photographic expert on Mike Rivero's What Really Happened had debunked; and all I could do then was to point out to the same organization that the 9/11 Truth community was tireless in its efforts to get at the truth. Later, I found the flaws in the What Really Happened debunking article; but by then it was too late to go once again to the organization with the evidence that I'd been right all along. Good way to ruin your reputation and that of your colleagues.
@RBD-you ask PROVE THAT ED IS AFFILIATED WITH ANY AGENCY!! as if the CIA/DHS/FBI-pick your poison- would actually admit he works for them!! oh wait Langley Virginia is returning my call about ed. I got the DHS and FBI on hold. You cannot be frikin serious. We KNOW HE'S AN AGENT. after he was busted-suggest all Google ed chiarini/busted mugshot/Dallas texas, he suddenly emerges in the aftermath of the giffords event. And just how does he/you/ you are his creation/spend all day on fb/YouTube/twitter/websites/blogs/internet radio etc etc without a regular stream of income?? Just who pays both of your freight?? You mean that donations/PayPal/''the kindness of strangers'' puts food on your table,pays your rent,utility bills,travel expenses?? Do you get mad money for movie nights and pizza parties?? Seriously you must know people ask these very real questions-RBD!! Cpl new Kirk on Hogan's heros/family fued host great nom de guerre!!!
AHhahahah I just took a look at all the contributors here and minus the 2 I know, the rest are a joke. Im not going to be wasting my time answering these fictions that hide who they are. hahah COWARDS.
I have come to the conclusion that Ed Chiarini is either mad or brilliant. There can be no in between. He's proven a lot of stuff like.... too much to list here but DO check his stuff out and decide for yourself. Ed don't stop making those videos because even if you are disinfo it is SO entertaining.
Goldbug is neither mad nor brilliant, he is just an obnoxious gov agent who gets paid for infiltrating the truth movement. He probably gets paid for every new post, or he has a quot to fill. Tell Cass Sunstein im not impressed.
John Boehner is really actor Ray Liotta? C'mon!
Why doesn't Charadi flush his shit down the pan like ordinary people? Does he really have to put it on display for all the world to see and smell? This Dallasgoldbug jerk is stinking the whole place up with his funny feces.
And what a stupid post you've just made. Please. What have you done lately?
Jon Stewart would have a field day with this material.
I'm re-thinking my previously stated speculation that the on-line streams of disgustingly crude, juvenile abuse questionably credited to Goldbug (here) and Judy Wood (elsewhere) are authored by a single, Pentagon/Mossad net-sniper.I'm now also open to the possibility that the real author is, wait for it, a frustrated PERFORMANCE ARTIST! You know the type -- someone who ecstatically revels in confounding a determined-to-take-it-seriously audience with ever weirder flights and extremes of sheer, unmitigated ABSURDITY.(Then again, maybe that's just the sort of "artsy" cubicle shill that Dr. Sunstein has been recruiting of late.) Ionesco, Beckett and Pinter would be proud...
Professor Fetzer, I think Cass Sunsteins paper is a must read. It is chilling as hell.papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585
I've read enough of the Cass Sunstein paper to convince myself that Sunstein's logical ground is determined by the security of his paycheck and perhaps even more-unsavory influences. I'd like to suggest -following Dave Emory and his sources- that a Nazi underground (consisting of Operation Paper Clip recruits to U.S. industry and government, and their protégés; a long-standing pro-fascist tradition within the business hierarchy that backed European fascism in the mid-20th century and continues to do so; and the heirs of a clandestine network which smuggled not only gold, patents, and counterfeit bonds and currency out of Nazi Germany, but also the repository of the entire "wealth" of vicious -but skillfully concocted- anti-democratic, anti-Semitic, and anti-Marxian propaganda) is very active in American academia and on the Internet, and is even using assets within the Zionist movement and within leftist organizations to further its goal of establishing a universal Third Reich more frightening in its potential hold on the fate of humanity than Hitler's and Mussolini's. American philosophy, and American academia generally, are guided by an unconscious, self-denied subjectivism (intrinsically class-based) and by an empiricism lacking in theoretical ground (known to Marxists as "impressionism") which render them untrustworthy as dependable guardians against tyranny and despotism. Dave Emory (who is not a Marxist) has collected and disseminated -and made available in radio archives- the best attempt at a popular educational resource detailing the history of Nazism and the growth of its influence within our own modern world, at http://spitfirelist.com/ Far from perfect, but I believe the thesis Emory espouses is sound, however much to those unfamiliar with the abundant evidence it is counter-intuitive.
Ed is disinfo agent pure and simple. He's a product of Cass sunstein's COGNITIVE INFILTRATION program. His Bio is full of clues-at age 15 he began his association with JFK assassination researcher BOB GRODEN-just who would hire a 15 yr old to work on two major tomes of which a major motion picture was based on?? Then his stint in the USAF(USAF=CIA?) THEN stints working for HALIBURTON and other tech Co. with primo ties to the US INTEL community. That media fakery and lies are all too real is painfully true. That DGB is full of it is also true.
the only thing that is keeping the 911 fiasco alive is the government shills are costantly,keeping the misile attack at the Pentagram out of the picture and are demanding that planes were highjacked by terrorist and flown into the buildings.The only way the US Government could declare a war for Sadams oil was to put on a movie and insist 3000 people were killed on American soil.The twin towers were brought down by controlled demolitions and the noise of the timed explosions were dubbed out or cover over by music. there were NO PLANES involved just a video overlay.The FBIs 5 framed release shows evidence of three misiles fired into the Pentagram. After 11 years all that has came out of the truther sites is particle beam/Tesla weaponry used.This did not happen.It was Thermate cutter charges in a computer timed sequence that brought all the WTC building down.But if you remove the FAKED PLANES the whole TRUTH MOVEMENT WILL CRUMBLE and the shills will have to get another job $$$$$$$$$$$$
Jim heres your dust!http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/browse_thread/thread/8d20b5126bbfa59a/4dbfb18427da06d1?hl=en&q=
You know you're over the target when you are catching flack. If Jim Fetzer is truly legitimate he will do what he said and have his experts look over Eds work and not be swayed by these conspiracy snobs. If 911 was an inside job than all these shootings and media trials deserve the same attention as they are an important aspect of the false reality paradigm.
upontheedge1upontheedge1's JournalPlus Account, Created on 17 February 2013 #60462718), never updated [Gift]Jim Fetzer will do what he has to do whether you like it or not, newbie.
Whoa that didn't take long.
Jim, I know the feeling about the skepticism one goes through when faced withthe proposition that all these people; and in your case you know some of them, are possibly actors. The power of the production level is hardest to focus ondue to the coordination and discipline is outside the understanding for me. Allof these so called actors are being controlled. They probably have agents whocontrol every aspect on how their actor will be filmed or photographed, when and where, etc. The depth of field and camera distortion are powerful image changing techniques is my understanding. As for the concept of having our reality moldedfor us by troops of actors, whole families doing it, is amazing information.
Very interesting show guys, I think Ed is right about a lot of things but just takes it too far... I can't see most of the connections he makes between people. There are no doubt actors involved in scripting media PSYOPS, and many of them may be from the same family. But some of the other theories he has about the "Nazis", Warren Buffett, some high profile politicians and media personalities, etc. are just plain wrong if you ask me. Glad Jim had him on the air though, very thought provoking discussion. I think Ed is right about the Pentagon situation on 9/11.
there have been very few others out there to call the jkf 'assassination' for what it is/was - another hoaxes/faked/staged event.culto does it on letsrollforumshttp://letsrollforums.com/jfk-murder-staged-event-t23127.html?s=49793ceaf26e3bc3f4d70e70eb8687af&s=56e577be76f3c6c3089cebb64e420429&and ed charini does it on wellaware1.for this alone if for nothing else, he deserves respect.i would like to see him back discussing this shocker specifically with jim.
It reminds me of something Josiah Thompson said in the Oswald's Ghost movie. I'm paraphrasing but Josiah said something like:" If you wanted to pick a location for the assassination of a President, Hollywood itself couldn't have chosen a better one than Dealey Plaza."It makes you wonder how many "extras" were milling around in Dealey Plaza on 22 November 1963.
It was certainly entertaining radio but that's about it. For instance on his wellaware1 site he states that Troy Aikman and Mark Fuhrman are the same person. That's laughable. One person can't be in two places at once. Let's take 1995 for example:Fuhrman was testifying at the OJ trial With the jury absent on September 6, 1995, the defense asked Fuhrman whether he had ever falsified police reports or if he had planted or manufactured evidence in the Simpson case. He invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.On September 4, 1995 the Dallas Cowboys played the Giants in New York on Monday Night Football. The 6th would have been a Wednesday. NFL players are off on Tuesdays but have to report for practice on Wednesdays. If a player misses practice that is reported WIDELY in the media. There are beat writers from local and national outfits that cover NFL football. No way could Aikman have been in LA testifying. With all of the media around the OJ trial and the Dallas Cowboys NO WAY could one guy pull off the roles of Aikman and Fuhrman.Not to mention that Fuhrman was born February 5, 1952 and Aikman was born November 21, 1966. Fuhrman served in Vietnam out of high school and Troy Aikman was a highly recruited QB. Aikman played for the Oklahoma Sooners in 84 and 85 then transferred to UCLA.The whole Aikman/Fuhrman thing is a LOAD OF BS. Ed you're totally full of it!
Not to mention the fact that troy aikman is 6ft 4 in and played at 230 in his prime. Not only is mark shorter and 40 lbs lighter for troy to have played his stint as mark furhman he would have had to lost alot of weight and muscle mass which would have not been possible to regain in time for training camp or the regular season. This would have made him vulnerable to injury/poor performance. People would have noticed.
I also don't believe Furhman is Aikman, but as the OJ trial was a complete hoax, the filming could have been done in advance of the training date - that is, if Furham was Aikman, or, the other way round. LOL.
I think Don is on the right track. Showing that x = y in cases of personal identity requires that they also be in the same places at the same times. I would like to invite Ed to sketch his account of the assassination and the identities he claims hold in that case, which will at the least offer an opportunity for others to assess the credibility of his JFK contentions. Please do that here, Ed.
It would also be very useful, Jim if you could ask Ed about his assertion that Lyndon Baines Johnson and John B. Connally are the one and same person. It seems that LBJ and JBC (John Boy Connally?) have matching earlobes and EVEN the same handwriting - based on their signatures. Amazing!!
Instead of people just sitting back and pontificating if Ed is genuine or is a disinfo agent or if Troy Aikman looks like Mark Fuhrman, more investigation into the physical location of these individuals needs to occur. The OJ trial could have been taped prior to the dates and the video feed through the MSM on Sept 6 1995. Don't forget these people have billions of their money and our money to work with and spread around. Ask Oprah or Rush Limbaugh or Piers Morgan what they will say for 10 to 50 million a year thats what we are up against.
The OJ trial was broadcast live on TV and radio. Then it was analyzed and reanalyzed on the cable networks especially Court TV. I worked 2nd shift then and watched most of it live. People were protesting across the street for most of it. People like OJ, Marcia Clark etc. were seen coming to and leaving the court house. Everyone's whereabouts were well documented. Football players have precise schedules. They travel everywhere with the team. A player (especially a star QB) can't just come and go willy-nilly. Fuhrman and Aikman have a resemblance but it's not that hard to tell them apart. Their voices are different as well. They are clearly two different people.
upontheedge1,Yes you are exactly right in that we would need to check Ed's claim against empirical facts. Yet in clear cases such as when Tina Fey and Sarah Palin were on SNL at the same time, we are told that chroma-key software was used, and the ordeal becomes ever more complicated when it is far easier to conclude that Ed's claim is untrue. It is Ed that needs to provide extraordinary evidence, not merely his singular testimony that two photographs match. In this photoshop age, Ed's claims hold even less water as there is no chain of custody on the relevant images. Ed could easily airbrush in desired features, use cloning features, or manipulate two images into a composite. Who could not see this obvious potential?
LBJ and J Connally were for the first 11 months or so of JFK's administration often in each other's company. Connally was the Secretary of the Navy before departing and eventually becoming, soon thereafter, Governor of Texas.
Ed you are pleading that we criticize the work and not the man. Ray Liotta is John Boehner according to you. I know Ray Liotta, so this is a FAIL. Jim Fetzer knows James Tracy, which you did not count on, and thus another fail. Worst of all, your belief that JFK did not explode is the ultimate undermining of your credibility. So clearly it is your work, that fails
Perhaps Ed is not so much a government instrument as an Internet bottom feeder, an entrepreneur that fashions hoax after hoax to direct traffic and advertisers to whatever lowly purpose he has designed. He used the word, "Toofer" which is only used by hostile Jonathan Kay Mossad types to vilify truth seekers. And many have questioned his Masonic regalia which for some is seen as a hint to those in the know... He doesn't do live shows with real callers I have heard, and his name is mud among so many others. His Internet presence is a shame in that he seems to have genuine talent misdirected to the most vile agendas. But in the context of "performance artist" he is indeed a prince, using his playful postmodern sensibility to create new reality tunnels.Join the good guys, Ed.
Sounds like a big fat "F" to me.Have you seen your coloring book anywhere, Ed?Crayons, Ed?
I have wanted to write a piece about him for Veterans Today, but perhaps he is doesn't merit it. But I have watched him from afar with a heavy heart, hoping that I could make sense of his flights of fancy. I am hopelessly naive when it comes to the methods of our enemy, and O give many a benefit of the doubt that is not warranted. Only in the wake of Sandy Hook did the turf of Ed Charini become relevant, as the notion of hoaxes and actors became the catchwords and new hypothesis for state sponsored "events."I do not know what others have decided about this wayward soul, other than he has yet to deviate from his absurdist vector. I have shrugged it off as a bizarre chapter in the book on cognitive infiltration, which is striking in that seeks no subtlety nor air of credibility, but the opposite. It is as if Ed wants to see how far he can push the envelope and still keep gullible fish on his hook.The very crudeness, the base quality of it, is what perplexes... And so Ed remains, not quite an enemy in his choice for irrational exhibitionism, but not quite a friend in his unmistakeable quest to deceive. For what purpose he does this is not important; it is enough that he says lies with earnestness and a straight face, in public forums, with no holistic approach to his art or to truth, but only his stubborn insistence that his subjective claims are enough to convince the world to disregard reason and logic. In all these years Ed has not followed up on one "exposure" to corroborate his claim by other means. This is how we can know that Ed is not convinced either, but only entertaining us in a repeated ritual of desecrating the truth we all hold sacred.
OK, we got it, you are the the great decider of truth and motive and that you must reluctantly proclaim that because Ed doesn't have enough resources to tail the robber baron spawn, we must dismiss all his work. If you are such a great journalist why don't YOU lend a hand. Veteran's Today isn't exactly without controversy.
Thank you, Solfeggio. You exercise your voice with both clarity and intelligence.
I am no decider of truth. If anything, only the silencing of debate infuriates me. I am not calling for Ed to be silenced; he confounds me for sure, but I do not think his thesis can withstand public scrutiny, and as traumatic as his intrusion into the truth movement is, I do not think he has convinced one real person since his claim that Sarah Palin was Tina Fey...
After being initially skeptical of eds claims I had a look at his website. I was quite surprised to learn that SIRHAN SiRHAN IS THE FONZ! How could I have been so blind?
Did the lady in the polka dot dress make him jump the shark?
Shocking news!! Ed Chariani EXPOSED!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO1tf6cp3qk
Way to destroy any credibility you had left Jim. Ed has exposed himself as an operative several times. One only needs to search youtube for Ed Chiarini exposed to see that he is an operative. This makes me think that you possibly are one too.
So let me get this straight, Ed is an op and because Jim interviews him he is therefore an op? This sounds like silly Santilli logic to me! Aka bullshit!
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Ed is an operative.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-09xnjli1xE
Ed recorded our conversation before the show began and included it in a YouTube of this interview, where I have listened to 2 of its 3 parts. I have very mixed feelings about this program. Not only do two persons, x and y, have to have the same physical features at the same times (not at different times, since anyone's hair will be longer or shorter before and after having a hair cut), but x and y have to have been in the same places at the same times during their histories to be the same person. When he identifies Sarah Palin and Tina Fey, moreover, or John Connally and Lyndon Johnson, the problem arises that we have seen them together at the same time, which refutes his identity claims. On SNL, for example Tina was doing one of her classic Palin impressions when Palin came on the stage and walked past her. Obviously, these are two persons, not one. And there have to be thousands of photos of LBJ and John Connally together at the same time. I may have over-promised, therefore, because I am having a hard time asking others to review claims like these that so obviously cannot be correct. I also noticed many ear and teeth comparisons that were not identical, as he claims I like what he had to say about the Pentagon, especially, and I do believe that some of those involved in these staged shootings are actors, but Ed has become carried away. I cannot endorse him and do not plan to have him back, as I have informed him.
Are you kidding me? All of Ed's research has a conclusion, not the alternative Media and it's circles that go no where? Palin/Fey, really? That spiced one footage of her walking by on the stage? That was so doctored up and fake, it's insulting. If you can't agree Jennifer Greenberg Sexton is Sarah Palin/Tina Fey and many others, NOBODY can help you. No, Ed has not gotten carried away. He exposes the fraud, that we have/had been shoved down our throats by the elites. He exposes, factually, dot by dot by dot. You can deny all you want? You and other can insult Ed Chiarini all you want. Nobody has sued him, nobody. Why is that? You might want to view all his research and facts, to start. Keep going in circles Jim Feltzer, that's what you're paid to do. Ed isn't. The snowball is rolling. These criminal elites; that have hijacked this country and others should ALL be shackled and led single file to prison.
Hey Ed, why are you using sock puppets? Is it because you have no real followers? LOL!!!!
I don't think you need to endorse him to have him back. I don't think you endorse 100% of the views of any of your guests. You should have him back because you promised to flush out his ideas on JFK and other issues. If anything it would be an interesting listen.
John Connour, good post, yes, it is that simple to have Ed Chiarini back on and have someone explain factually, how he is wrong?Good luck.
Ed's done some good work - Columbine was very enlightening. Sufficient verification in my view.As to no one bringing a lawsuit its my belief that aside from the truth of the matter as an absolute defense for libel, malice has to be proven. By the nature of his work its believable he has no malice intended but rather a justifiable pursuit of individuals wantonly out to destroy the nation and its health. I don't believe he can be touched in that regardIf I may chime in here as to the issue of JFK being Jimmy Carter and the 2 wives being the same entity [leaving Marilynn Monroe out of it for now]?Jackie was 5' 9 and Rosalynn 5''5 J C is 5' 9.5" tall while JFK was 6' Ed explains this as the shrinking of JFK from '63 -1977 as he attests to being similar to a personal relative's aging degradation. Problem is that Going back to J Carter's wedding photos 1946 and as with the vast majority of photos of them together there's always sufficient allowance there coming from a 5'5 person aside a 5' 9.5" one not the gross separation between a 55 and a 6' individual. Searching and finding the Kennedy on their wedding day has shown a couple within the 3" that a 6' and a 5 9 would present. There's so much more J carter was busy running for the state senate in 1962 Lost- asked for a recount - won Then a reelection occured within the next 4 days and his political future took off. This all occurred between Oct 16 and Nov 2 1962 Cuban missile crises - Oct 14 - 28th 1962 President Kennedy was/is not President J Carter!
Ed has gotten carried away. After all the perpetrators of 911, you know the 19 Saudi's who hijacked the 4 Airliners directed by Osama Bin Laden from a cave or Lee Harvey Oswald, the lone gunman who killed Kennedy has been settled by the FBI for some time now so you guys need to knock it off. Geez, holographic airliners, nano thermite, mini nukes doctored crime scene films autopcies and photo shopped images of people standing in doorways, what an imagination!
Might that be the same FBI that allows for an [any] airliner capable of 'shearing' through those 911 towers. Like to know of any engineer/physicist types who given unlimited income could design anything capable of doing what had to have happened for what was 'presented' to have happened
Hey Jim, did you know that Ed has now accused you of being someone you are not? That's his MO, you should have known that.http://burnlistblog.blogspot.com.au/You have Ed's sock puppets in your comments too. That's how he supports his lies. He uses many sock puppets. You should have known about that too.
Yes I knew ed would turn on Jim fetzer as he turned on Linda joslin-lady Diana(ridiculous)/Joyce riley-ron Paul's wife(nonsense) Stephanie sledge and many others. Now he claims you too on his troll site-burnlist blog/au are an actor too. This man is an agent.
excelsior, any of the individuals you mentioned, care to send over some ear pictures to Ed? This would be simple to do and clear up any problems with these exposures. If Ed is wrong, prove it. It's that simple.
Simple as you are BOB TIMMINS-i know your game. Ed needs to prove HIMSELF/not the other way around. He is making stupid claims and it shocks me/maybe it shouldn't/that people cannot see how easy it is/I give the devil his do/to photoshop-manipulate-massage/photos many of which are poor quality. There are now cottage industries of numbnuts who believe this garbage. One pro chiarini blogger I came across actually believes VANCOUVER CANUCKS GOALIE ROBERTO LUONGO is SASCHA BARON COHEN. utter nonsense. Hey there's a sucker born every minute-BTW-peace and luv. Catch all your posts on utube. You are a star baby.
Ed's site Wellaware1 will explain what's been going on. Enjoy. As for your mentioned individuals above, Exposed, GAME OVER, Bye Bye.
Ed's site is full of so many viruses/malware/tracking cookies you risk your computer's viability-FACT!!!
Ed's site?? Its a retard's dream!! BTW-ed turns on everyone who hosts him except CELTIC REBEL who is really CHRIS GEO-CHRIS GEO DECEPTION/BLOG. ed and his buddy at oracle( which is a CIA front/should make ed feel right at home)! Claim they had him and the living tiki on but I can tell that was manipulated since he's been exposed as the living tiki-as well as RBD(NO PICTURES OF RICHARD EXIST ANYWHERE) as does JAMES DANIEL/OREGON HERBALIST. Oh and BOB TIMMINS/EACHONETEACHONE/KEVIN SIMMS/MISTY RIVERS/TRUTHEXPANDING/IATEWANTOO WHEATSON(my personal favorite)! but hey bob pretend like you don't know-bwaahhh.
I used to believe Ed's work until I saw his post about Liv Kapln being the same person than Liv Tyler and Eric Clapton as being franck castorf!Their jaws are not the same and both Liv... What a joke!That was it! I bloked him.
What Ed seems to do is take ordinary people and their personal info and say that they are some famous actor is politician. Then he tells his audience to find them and hold them accountable. Well that could mean a lot of things to people who believe the individuals he is supposedly exposing are corrupt and paid government shills. That could mean if you see them on the street" assault them, or shoot them" which is a form of domestic terrorism and abuse. He says the people he is exposing should be "held accountable". So if he says that Joe from a small town in Tennessee and lives in a trailer park is really a member of the Kennedy family and his audience believes him, what do you think could happen to poor Joe?
Ed I've reached the point of thinkin that those who want the truth will find it and those who must be "convinced" don't want it.
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