I don't know why Madison's serial killer of young women is a threat to Jim, unless it's a side effect from some gun for hire who's protected there. Did I miss something?
YES. You missed something: "Bank Robbers and Serial Killers", http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/21/bank-robbers-and-serial-killers-the-cia-recruits-them-the-fbi-ignores-them/ Check it out.
YES. You missed something: "Bank Robbers and Serial Killers", http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/21/bank-robbers-and-serial-killers-the-cia-recruits-them-the-fbi-ignores-them/ Check it out.
I will have to listen to the show but unless Jim has suddenly transformed into an 18-20 year old girl who wears their hair long with a parting I am going to say...no.
One minor point, I am pretty sure Tesla wasn't murdered by the Nazis. That is a story dreamed up by Otto Skorzeny long after the war, just one of many flights of fancy from Skorzeny.
Tesla was more likely murdered by US visitors from mil/naval circles who came to get his papers. They could have been Paperclip Nazi US people, but would not have been murdered by Nazis as such. (He had a meeting with US officials the same day he seems to have died on, since the body was found in a state of decomposition approximately the amount expected of his having died a few days before, on that day.)
Tesla did in January 1943, more than two years before Operation Paperclip, so forget any notion of Nazi involvement.
He was 86 years old. virtually penniless and hadn't done anything of any note in 15 years, so it's highly doubtful he was murdered. If anyone has wanted to murder Tesla, they would have done it decades before when he actually might have posed a threat.
Oh, and Ian, a major point is that it was not decades before when he was a military threat; rather, his beam weapons (particle beam weapons) and so on were only developed much later, and all of his papers were missing immediately.
If you have the eyes of a sleuth, you can at least open your mind to the possibility.
Maybe its just me, but I think when the greatest serial killer in the history of the world is after you and the law will not listen, Houston we have a problem.
I tend to doubt not Hailey's direct experiences and some of what she has put together, but having been traumatized and being so upset about these guys for so long, I think she has overdone how many cases can really be linked to them and/or which ones, specifically, even if numbers were accurate.
This does not deny the likely serial nature of their acting upon a penchant for murder and/or being hired to murder, and be protected.
I don't know the whole story, but just from what it sounds like here, she's mad at Jim about whatever... including his position on Piper... or maybe even especially... and just wanting him out of her life.
If she's been so vocal for so long, she'd have been dead long ago if this killer is really the killer he's supposed to be, even if he knew he'd never be prosecuted... so much the less would Jim be a target for him now if he had not been before.
Seriously. She probably got mad about the Piper thing and getting put off until after the 50th, so first just did not pick up the phone and then got even madder when Jim published something without her permission.
She comes off here as darn hysterical and hyperbolic and ANGRY. So, no, I don't think killers have targeted Jim. I think Jim just made her mad.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the article Jim wrote for Veterans Today was done in December 2012 - a little over a year ago. He and she have been in contact since then and no problems -- until now -- yet she is using the article as the excuse for being angry with Jim and not wanting anything more to do with him. I would take that as a code for "something is not right but I can't say." She may well have had a gun to her head (figuratively, at least) and was doing all she could.
Has anyone considered the possibility that the woman may be delusional? This supposed serial-killer with hundreds of victims? What evidence other than hearsay is out there to substantiate these claims.
If she is delusional, it also can develop from real suspicions. She veers between specific memories she has and other cases she's convinced herself they were involved in. The truth, as I pointed out above, could be somewhere in the "middle": if the numbers are correct, it doesn't mean she has the cases right, and if some of the cases are right, it doesn't mean all are or that she isn't missing some of them. Or she could be completely wrong.
One thing which does have support from elsewhere is that Canada was involved, through at least the money laundering aspect, probably, such as the Bronfmans, for the Lanskys and others, using Permindex, per Garrison. If so, there could well have been some teams or a team of killers from Canada hired as well.
That woman sounds like a paranoid schizophrenic. Jim you have nothing to worry about. The NWO considers you the nutty professor. I am sure they have a chuckle when they listen to your broadcasts...
Ole talked about a dart gun. Heard years ago an ice bullet was used on the throat shot. Funny how these things roll back around through the years.
Jim, remember that when you are telling Ole there was little window for the kind of shot he describes, you are relying on the Z film, which is as always, problematic at best.
The only ones that know for certain what it really looked like are the fortunate ones that have seen the real film.
Guess I'll keep pointing out that that is the final piece we need and all good researchers should be doing everything possible to find it.
Jim argues that exposing stories like this one is the best way to avoid being murdered on the grounds that the would be murderers would be verifying the story if they did commit the murder.
Personally, I would not bet my life on this.
But further, what if the bad guys set you up with a false story, one that thetefore could not hurt them if exposed, the murder you when you expose it as a lesson to would be exposers of true stories?
More likely, Jim is a gullible fool, taken in again by the rantings of a batshit crazy woman. One only has to Google one claim from this woman to realize that it is all horseshit...seriously though, can I have those 2 hours of my life back?
I do not believe this woman to be at all credible. I was born and raised in the city where this transit driver is alleged to have committed so many murders. It is absurd to suggest that all of them were somehow cleverly hidden from media attention.
I am not convinced that Mr. Fetzer claims to believe all of this because he is gullible. No one trained in logic could possibly be so. There must be other motives.
The phone conversation sounded to me as if it were staged by two very bad actors.
the pictured serial killer in question in the skull and bones hat doesn't half look like George bush junior with a (moose)tashe. culto proves the fakery when it comes to the jfk fakassassination. lots of people seem to be willing to play the roles of 'bad guys'. what the real truth is, I am sure we will be finding out very soon. why don't you have culto on the show jim? you cannot deny that his research is intelligent and extensive, and it would make for two hours good entertainment (at the very least).
I'm waiting on this debate with jim fetzer, don fox and maybe Clare Kuehn vs. Simon Shack, Frankly Speaking and OBF. If it does happen, hopefully it is a real debate unlike the last few I heard - Sandy Hook and JFK.
Pete Shea was another commentator from this blog I'd like also to be involved in this debate. Apologies to Pete for leaving hom out.
In all honesty I don't really know how this subject of fake events could be debated or proven. But it will be an interesting listen if this debate goes ahead.
Culto's work is the most farcical nonsense around and no serious JFK researcher would give it the time of day.
There is no point debating with shills like OBF and Shack. Don Fox debated OBF last Sunday and wiped the floor with him, OBF didn't even try to debate many of the points and showed a massive disrespect by playing the guitar instead of concentrating on the debate at hand.
People like Culto, Shack, OBF, pete shea, El Buggo and others are merely timewasters who are best ignored because they contribute nothing of any value and instead, spread BS thick and fast wherever they go.
have I mentioned before that ian is not to be trusted? culto has invested many years in his research efforts and he presents a most excellent package. for ian to describe him and his work thusly is a clear indication of ian's untrustworthyness. these guys just don't like the idea of media fakery for some strange reason. don did not do well in the debate. none of the substantive issues raised regarding fakery were dealt with.
Culto has wasted years then, his work is ludicrous, laughable, a bad joke. No-one who has done any kind of research into JFK and has a rational, sane mind would consider Culto's work to be anything other than ridiculous.
You fakery clowns are a bad joke too, I strongly suspect that no-one can be so incompetent and stupid as you appear to be, therefore the logical alternative is that you are deliberately spreading false information
Yes, fakery often plays a part in false flag operations, for instance the Zapruder film we have all seen so many times has been altered so much it can be considered a fakery, but that element of fakery dos not mean the whole event was faked, just as the presence of some faked TV broadcast footage mean the rest of the events of 9/11 were faked.
It seems pretty obvious to me that the 'everything is fake' people like Culto and Shack are gatekeepers, agents of disinfo deliberately misleading people who seek the truth. To me, that makes them lower than the belly of a snake and deserving of nothing but scorn and derision.
You leave Culto alone!!! He did some SOLID research, with SOLID results (i.e., Lee Israel, IP#'s). It's still a classic, as is his Diana (Isis) research. He's not claiming anything is true, he's sharing his excellent observations with us, be them right or wrong. He's much more polite than Jabba and Ralph Cinque et.al. Hey, Culto, how you doin'? I'm OK, I guess.
Crap like Culto spreads doesn't deserve the title research, it is the ramblings of a sick mind. The JFK assassination was one of the defining events of modern times and needs to be researched with respect and care. When idiots like Culto put forward ludicrous theories like Jackie sticking a squib to JFK's face they are showing not only a complete lack of respect for both Jackie and JFK, but for everyone else who was affected by the killing. Culto has to be assessed in the same way as Simon Shack - he is either totally incompetent or is deliberately misleading people.
He is SUGGESTING it, you don't have to believe OR read it…………. and I don't think he's being disrespectful, just misunderstood. You owe Culto an apology, dagnabbit.
When the subject is such an important one then it is very wrong to even suggest a crackpot theory. How can there be misunderstanding when he is making absurd claims such as the murders of JFK and Mary Meyer not having happened?
Culto is either a grossly incompetent idiot or a disinfo shill and I would tell him so to his face.
Would you say the same to the Sybilline Oracle at Delphi?Like it or not, these are our modern myths, and different people interpret them different ways. Mr. Culto's 'Night Gallery' segment in the journal he is kind enough to share was top-notch stuff. Yes, I agree with you that playing around with a tragedy like Jack's murder can be perceived as disrespectful, especially to the aggrieved parties. But all you need do is read the outstanding journalists at Veterans Today to see that Mr. Culto is not the problem. Pick on them.
The one referenced in the article below from 1989 can't be the same "Hailey Otis" can it ? Is she originally from Toronto ? http://articles.latimes.com/1989-09-28/news/vw-513_1_soul-mates
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Wow i guess we can stop wondering about sandy hook now
ReplyDeleteI don't know why Madison's serial killer of young women is a threat to Jim, unless it's a side effect from some gun for hire who's protected there. Did I miss something?
ReplyDeleteYES. You missed something: "Bank Robbers and Serial Killers", http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/21/bank-robbers-and-serial-killers-the-cia-recruits-them-the-fbi-ignores-them/ Check it out.
DeleteYES. You missed something: "Bank Robbers and Serial Killers", http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/21/bank-robbers-and-serial-killers-the-cia-recruits-them-the-fbi-ignores-them/ Check it out.
DeleteI see. Thanks. Forgot.
DeleteI will have to listen to the show but unless Jim has suddenly transformed into an 18-20 year old girl who wears their hair long with a parting I am going to say...no.
ReplyDeleteInteresting show, a lot to get my head around.
ReplyDeleteOne minor point, I am pretty sure Tesla wasn't murdered by the Nazis. That is a story dreamed up by Otto Skorzeny long after the war, just one of many flights of fancy from Skorzeny.
Tesla was more likely murdered by US visitors from mil/naval circles who came to get his papers. They could have been Paperclip Nazi US people, but would not have been murdered by Nazis as such. (He had a meeting with US officials the same day he seems to have died on, since the body was found in a state of decomposition approximately the amount expected of his having died a few days before, on that day.)
DeleteTesla did in January 1943, more than two years before Operation Paperclip, so forget any notion of Nazi involvement.
DeleteHe was 86 years old. virtually penniless and hadn't done anything of any note in 15 years, so it's highly doubtful he was murdered. If anyone has wanted to murder Tesla, they would have done it decades before when he actually might have posed a threat.
Too true re. Paperclip. Threw that in as a thought because of the comments above, but forgot the year. It's been a while since I dealt with this.
DeleteAnyway, it is not impossible at all that Otto knew something.
Oh, and Ian, a major point is that it was not decades before when he was a military threat; rather, his beam weapons (particle beam weapons) and so on were only developed much later, and all of his papers were missing immediately.
DeleteIf you have the eyes of a sleuth, you can at least open your mind to the possibility.
lovely use of the word FUKKK! seriously
ReplyDeletelove it
Maybe its just me, but I think when the greatest serial killer in the history of the world is after you and the law will not listen, Houston we have a problem.
ReplyDeleteI tend to doubt not Hailey's direct experiences and some of what she has put together, but having been traumatized and being so upset about these guys for so long, I think she has overdone how many cases can really be linked to them and/or which ones, specifically, even if numbers were accurate.
ReplyDeleteThis does not deny the likely serial nature of their acting upon a penchant for murder and/or being hired to murder, and be protected.
I don't know the whole story, but just from what it sounds like here, she's mad at Jim about whatever... including his position on Piper... or maybe even especially... and just wanting him out of her life.
ReplyDeleteIf she's been so vocal for so long, she'd have been dead long ago if this killer is really the killer he's supposed to be, even if he knew he'd never be prosecuted... so much the less would Jim be a target for him now if he had not been before.
Seriously. She probably got mad about the Piper thing and getting put off until after the 50th, so first just did not pick up the phone and then got even madder when Jim published something without her permission.
She comes off here as darn hysterical and hyperbolic and ANGRY. So, no, I don't think killers have targeted Jim. I think Jim just made her mad.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the article Jim wrote for Veterans Today was done in December 2012 - a little over a year ago. He and she have been in contact since then and no problems -- until now -- yet she is using the article as the excuse for being angry with Jim and not wanting anything more to do with him. I would take that as a code for "something is not right but I can't say." She may well have had a gun to her head (figuratively, at least) and was doing all she could.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Something recent in her life has triggered this.
DeleteHas anyone considered the possibility that the woman may be delusional? This supposed serial-killer with hundreds of victims? What evidence other than hearsay is out there to substantiate these claims.
ReplyDeleteIf she is delusional, it also can develop from real suspicions. She veers between specific memories she has and other cases she's convinced herself they were involved in. The truth, as I pointed out above, could be somewhere in the "middle": if the numbers are correct, it doesn't mean she has the cases right, and if some of the cases are right, it doesn't mean all are or that she isn't missing some of them. Or she could be completely wrong.
DeleteOne thing which does have support from elsewhere is that Canada was involved, through at least the money laundering aspect, probably, such as the Bronfmans, for the Lanskys and others, using Permindex, per Garrison. If so, there could well have been some teams or a team of killers from Canada hired as well.
DeleteThat woman sounds like a paranoid schizophrenic. Jim you have nothing to worry about. The NWO considers you the nutty professor. I am sure they have a chuckle when they listen to your broadcasts...
ReplyDeleteOle talked about a dart gun. Heard years ago an ice bullet was used on the throat shot. Funny how these things roll back around through the years.
ReplyDeleteJim, remember that when you are telling Ole there was little window for the kind of shot he describes, you are relying on the Z film, which is as always, problematic at best.
The only ones that know for certain what it really looked like are the fortunate ones that have seen the real film.
Guess I'll keep pointing out that that is the final piece we need and all good researchers should be doing everything possible to find it.
Its out there...somewhere
Jim argues that exposing stories like this one is the best way to avoid being murdered on the grounds that the would be murderers would be verifying the story if they did commit the murder.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I would not bet my life on this.
But further, what if the bad guys set you up with a false story, one that thetefore could not hurt them if exposed, the murder you when you expose it as a lesson to would be exposers of true stories?
Its pulp fiction. High jinx and shenanigans
DeleteIf they want your happy ass gone, you go. No bs'ing around.
They have control over all investigative agencies and all courts, so arrest and prosecution are never an issue.
Im quite sure they like Jim just fine.
Its really no fun if nobody notices...
More likely, Jim is a gullible fool, taken in again by the rantings of a batshit crazy woman. One only has to Google one claim from this woman to realize that it is all horseshit...seriously though, can I have those 2 hours of my life back?
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ReplyDeleteI do not believe this woman to be at all credible. I was born and raised in the city where this transit driver is alleged to have committed so many murders. It is absurd to suggest that all of them were somehow cleverly hidden from media attention.
DeleteI am not convinced that Mr. Fetzer claims to believe all of this because he is gullible. No one trained in logic could possibly be so. There must be other motives.
The phone conversation sounded to me as if it were staged by two very bad actors.
the pictured serial killer in question in the skull and bones hat doesn't half look like George bush junior with a (moose)tashe.
ReplyDeleteculto proves the fakery when it comes to the jfk fakassassination. lots of people seem to be willing to play the roles of 'bad guys'. what the real truth is, I am sure we will be finding out very soon.
why don't you have culto on the show jim? you cannot deny that his research is intelligent and extensive, and it would make for two hours good entertainment (at the very least).
scared? you're not chicken, are you jim?
it matters not anyways. all is good.
I'm surprised this hasn't got more comments.
ReplyDeleteI'm waiting on this debate with jim fetzer, don fox and maybe Clare Kuehn vs. Simon Shack, Frankly Speaking and OBF. If it does happen, hopefully it is a real debate unlike the last few I heard - Sandy Hook and JFK.
Pete Shea was another commentator from this blog I'd like also to be involved in this debate. Apologies to Pete for leaving hom out.
ReplyDeleteIn all honesty I don't really know how this subject of fake events could be debated or proven. But it will be an interesting listen if this debate goes ahead.
Culto's work is the most farcical nonsense around and no serious JFK researcher would give it the time of day.
ReplyDeleteThere is no point debating with shills like OBF and Shack. Don Fox debated OBF last Sunday and wiped the floor with him, OBF didn't even try to debate many of the points and showed a massive disrespect by playing the guitar instead of concentrating on the debate at hand.
People like Culto, Shack, OBF, pete shea, El Buggo and others are merely timewasters who are best ignored because they contribute nothing of any value and instead, spread BS thick and fast wherever they go.
have I mentioned before that ian is not to be trusted?
ReplyDeleteculto has invested many years in his research efforts and he presents a most excellent package. for ian to describe him and his work thusly is a clear indication of ian's untrustworthyness.
these guys just don't like the idea of media fakery for some strange reason.
don did not do well in the debate. none of the substantive issues raised regarding fakery were dealt with.
Culto has wasted years then, his work is ludicrous, laughable, a bad joke. No-one who has done any kind of research into JFK and has a rational, sane mind would consider Culto's work to be anything other than ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteYou fakery clowns are a bad joke too, I strongly suspect that no-one can be so incompetent and stupid as you appear to be, therefore the logical alternative is that you are deliberately spreading false information
Yes, fakery often plays a part in false flag operations, for instance the Zapruder film we have all seen so many times has been altered so much it can be considered a fakery, but that element of fakery dos not mean the whole event was faked, just as the presence of some faked TV broadcast footage mean the rest of the events of 9/11 were faked.
It seems pretty obvious to me that the 'everything is fake' people like Culto and Shack are gatekeepers, agents of disinfo deliberately misleading people who seek the truth. To me, that makes them lower than the belly of a snake and deserving of nothing but scorn and derision.
You leave Culto alone!!! He did some SOLID research, with SOLID results (i.e., Lee Israel, IP#'s). It's still a classic, as is his Diana (Isis) research. He's not claiming anything is true, he's sharing his excellent observations with us, be them right or wrong. He's much more polite than Jabba and Ralph Cinque et.al. Hey, Culto, how you doin'? I'm OK, I guess.
ReplyDeleteCrap like Culto spreads doesn't deserve the title research, it is the ramblings of a sick mind. The JFK assassination was one of the defining events of modern times and needs to be researched with respect and care. When idiots like Culto put forward ludicrous theories like Jackie sticking a squib to JFK's face they are showing not only a complete lack of respect for both Jackie and JFK, but for everyone else who was affected by the killing. Culto has to be assessed in the same way as Simon Shack - he is either totally incompetent or is deliberately misleading people.
ReplyDeleteHe is SUGGESTING it, you don't have to believe OR read it…………. and I don't think he's being disrespectful, just misunderstood. You owe Culto an apology, dagnabbit.
ReplyDeleteWhen the subject is such an important one then it is very wrong to even suggest a crackpot theory. How can there be misunderstanding when he is making absurd claims such as the murders of JFK and Mary Meyer not having happened?
ReplyDeleteCulto is either a grossly incompetent idiot or a disinfo shill and I would tell him so to his face.
Would you say the same to the Sybilline Oracle at Delphi?Like it or not, these are our modern myths, and different people interpret them different ways. Mr. Culto's 'Night Gallery' segment in the journal he is kind enough to share was top-notch stuff.
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree with you that playing around with a tragedy like Jack's murder can be perceived as disrespectful, especially to the aggrieved parties. But all you need do is read the outstanding journalists at Veterans Today to see that Mr. Culto is not the problem. Pick on them.
The one referenced in the article below from 1989 can't be the same "Hailey Otis" can it ? Is she originally from Toronto ? http://articles.latimes.com/1989-09-28/news/vw-513_1_soul-mates
ReplyDeletehttp://articles.latimes.com/1989-09-28/news/vw-513_1_soul-mates Can't be the same ?
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