The power of truth is well known. I think it was Marx who once remarked that, "Not only does might make right, but equally right makes might." Mohandas K Gandhi, however, and contrary to what Ms Honegger believes, did not free India nor would India have won its independence without the use of violence. The British imperialists, on the contrary, were delighted to have an opponent sworn to nonviolence. Watch the hidden truth of the revolutionary movement that won independence despite Gandhi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbIvnfq9tkg And please try to support the producers by purchasing the film.
Thx for that atlantabill, I am not familiar with Singh.Two great books on the topic: Ward Churchill's "The pathology of Pacifism," and Peter Gelderlos' "How Non-violence Helps the State."On the other side of the issue is Mark Kurlaski's "Non-violence, the History of a Great Idea."Can't make up my mind.
Babs Honegger may be a very pleasant and super-knowledgeable lady, Jim, but we mustn't forget that she spent several profitable years as a Pentagon employee (a military JOURNALIST, no less!) AFTER publicly questioning the government's "sacred" 9/11 lies. So it stands to reason she MUST be protected by some yet-to-be-identified U.S. military FACTION (probably some genuinely patriotic flag officers) who are still opposed to the ghastly Israelification of America's foreign policy. And that faction now seems devoted, for reasons currently obscure, to promoting a "limited hang-out" regarding the simulated-terror attacks. Her support of REAL PLANES, no matter how sincere she sounds, must therefore be taken with a mega-ton, or more, of radioactive salt.
Barbara is often misunderstood. She NEVER states that a commercial plane hit the Pentagon. She also says that the real story of the Pentagon attack is bombs INSIDE the Pentagon. She is hardly a limited hangout. Barbara is one of the most knowledgable 9/11 researchers on the planet. Check out her PowerPoint on my blog: http://donaldfox.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/barb-honeggers-vancouver-powerpoint/
Great comment from Andy Tyme. I'm really baffled as to how Ms Honegger could support any real, material aircraft, given all the evidence, which you can find repeated here with great confidence by Jim Fetzer and many technically astute guests, that the laws of physics just don't permit it within the framework we're aware of. I'd be surprised if she didn't offer us a new rabbit hole in her next interview, but I'd LOVE to hear how she backs up this claim. Dave, thanks for the sources. You might be interested in reading what Leon Trotsky said in 1939 about "Gandhi’s position and the position of the conciliationist colonial bourgeoisie in general": http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1939/07/india.htm
Thx for the Trotsky link--it's so rare that I find myself agreeing with him.If I remember correctly he deals with the subject of violence v non-violence in some detail in his "Terrorism and Communism."Haven't had a chance to watch the Singh documentary, but look forward to it. Thx again.
I should add that this particular letter of Trotsky doesn't deal with nonviolent resistance per se, but I have read another letter in which he remarked that nonviolent resistance has often been shown to be a useful tactic but leads to defeat when turned into a general strategy.
Well, atlantabill, the guy who does your thinking for ya, Dave Emory, outed Babs as a Nazi assassin killing truthtellers, decades ago. Couldn't she also be killing the truth itself - for her Nazi bosses? I mean, Dave was right about the Nazi thing wasn't he?(I'm sorry folks, but atlanta's Nazi fantasies are too ridiculous not to mock him when the opportunity arises)
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Not that I would be surprised, Nick, if Emory found a Nazi connection; but the search engine on the Spitfire List of Dave Emory's archives spitfirelist.com can't find 'Honegger'. Perhaps you're more familiar with Dave Emory's work than I am. Could you provide a link to back up what you say? I'm very unhappy with Emory's past (and present?) position on 9/11 and, although he HAS exposed the links of the founders and present élite of the State of Israel to both the Third Reich and Mussolini, he has consistently downplayed those in favor of exposing the Muslim links, which upsets me almost as much. I would LOVE to test my assumption that Emory is on the whole reliable with counter-evidence. If didn't welcome it, I shouldn't consider myself a truthseeker. Some years ago, I had it out with Ralph Schoenman http://takingaimradio.com/shows/audio.html when he announced he was planning to "expose" on his radio program the "no planers" and anyone opposed to the thermite sniffers as "disinformation agents". And, if I'd let ANYONE do my thinking for me, it would be Ralph Schoenman. Kevin Barrett and David Ray Griffin could tell you about that episode. Note: I removed the other comment because I found a typo.
What's up with the tree videos of the impact into the Pentagon. All I see on them is a missile. I keep wondering why the truth movement, which is always trying to find some hard evidence, has trouble discussing them. It's as if the whole truth movement is an intelligence operations. Always avoiding the obvious evidence and always getting into long and useless discussions about nothing.Any of you listened to Fetzer's interview about the No Plane theory with Jeff Hill. Not once did they address the problem with the fact that flight 175 flew through the damn building and left no hole. Always talking about deceleration, always having dumb discussions about Richard's Hal's stupid flight path analyses. Never getting to the core problems, just like any schills would have to do.
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/the_critics/Emory/Emory_bio.htmlEmory has Honegger as Nazi, murderer of Mae Brussel, whore, FBI informant, ADL agent, thief, liar and all round bad egg."although he HAS exposed the links of the founders and present élite of the State of Israel to both the Third Reich and Mussolini, he has consistently downplayed those in favor of exposing the Muslim links, which upsets me almost as much"Neither matter except to Jews and their hysterical extended phenotypes. It's normal for governments to have contacts with important players from all sides in other countries.
I wish she would have mentioned earlier that she believed planes hit the buildings. I could have moved on to the next episode sooner. Some real truth: http://bit.ly/WD0Imz
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