Friday, March 16, 2012

Dean Hartwell

The 9/11 Passenger Paradox

9 comments:

  1. "And I must say, Dean, that I am now quite convinced that it is on focusing on the planes and their alleged crashes that has the capacity to pull the rug out from the official account."


    "If there were no planes,
    Then there were no passengers.

    If there were no passengers,
    Then there were no hijackers.

    If there were no hijackers
    Then there were no Islamic fundamentalists.

    If there were no Islamic fundamentalists,
    Then the whole “war on terror” has been a complete charade."

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  2. I am convinced that the official story on 9/11 is a lie. Most of the people I know are convinced. The people are convinced. - It is time for another official inquiry. Let's talk about THAT. Who is / should be working on that? Who precisely is holding that back?

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  3. I have followed up on the "9/11 Passenger Paradox" article I did with Jim. The new article, which brings the passengers "home" is on my site at
    http://deanhartwell.weebly.com/1/post/2012/04/where-the-911-passengers-went-after-landing-in-cleveland.html

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  4. Dean, I would encourage you to look at the metaphor of Teller's Seven elements of a magic trick, then correlate your information to the steps that apply. I think this would assist people to over come the cognitive dissonance of reversing false facts. David Arnold

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    1. David and Jim,

      There are many people who will not give the time to absorb this seemingly unrelated material. Whatever is to capture their attention must be short and strong. We must show them that the position they are committed to is this: sometimes (if the government says so) THINGS FALL UP.

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  5. Don,

    You may be completely correct that any appeal to intellect is going to only land on a very small part of the population.

    The only "method" proven in recent history to "convince" large numbers of people is brute force.

    Even if that is right... which it is... who is going to utilize brute force to achieve THIS goal?

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  6. No, it is not right. There has been absolutely no effort on the part of anyone in the Truth Movement to address seriously and scientifically the question of how the public is to be informed.

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    1. Don, people know cartoon physics not real physics. Even most people with advanced degrees fail to see things falling up and then down as a problem. They believe in undefined magical properties of "energy" and still believe that bumble bees can't fly according to scientific principles and math without ever having traced those principles and math through. They are mostly more willing to believe trash pretending to be thought than real thought because it is easier. What support is there for the premise that "we" need "most people" anyway? Where is THAT assertion verified with historical example? Nowhere. We are encouraged to believe ridiculous political principles to make us waste our time and not exert our real power in effective ways known and used throughout history. Examples abound. The threat of boycott is more effective than most actual boycotts, which are ineffective. Etc. this effort will not be won by effective argument but only by effective action threatened and taken. Recall why psychopaths are effective, and how they achieve their success. Model success.

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  7. "Examples abound. The threat of boycott is more effective than most actual boycotts, which are ineffective. Etc. this effort will not be won by effective argument but only by effective action threatened and taken. Recall why psychopaths are effective, and how they achieve their success. Model success."

    I would question many statements here but support others. David, are you running for office - Elect David?

    Anyway, this is not the place for discussions of this kind. Would like to find such a place.

    Perhaps Dr. Fetzer will have you as a guest again soon and it can be planned to discuss your basic ideas on the show, and an address where we can do follow up discussion.

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