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Thanks for your work Jim. I wanted to mention, since you briefly touched on Kubrick, that there is some compelling evidence in his films that he was trying to broadcast about the hidden and occult aspects of the powers that control this world. Just as Zan "schooled" you on the Talmud, let me point you to the work of Jay Weidner. It's fascinating stuff. You should try to interview him. Here's a link:
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Bstrgrds,
Mick Hoss
On the question of Hollywood as propaganda it's fairly obvious to anyone with eyes that Hollywood does not pursue profit where it might mean protraying Christians and Christianity, for example, in a positive light.
ReplyDeleteMel Gibson's PASSION OF THE CHRIST had to be independently funded and distributed yet made hundreds of millions demonstrating a massive untapped market. Hollywood refuses to put out similarly themed pictures.
Mel Gibson warned Jim Caviezel, who played Christ in the picture that Hollywood would not forgive him for and this proved correct. Zan Overall's analysis appears to have predictive value:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1382515/Passion-Christ-actor-Jim-Caviezel-said-Hollywood-shunned-him.html
Actor Jim Caviezel has claimed his Hollywood career was wrecked by playing Jesus.
He said he was ‘rejected in my own industry’ after taking on the lead role in Mel Gibson's controversial movie ‘The Passion of the Christ’.
Since playing the son of God in the 2004 film he said offers had dried up and he is shunned by many within the industry.
Although a box office hit taking more than $400million worldwide it was condemned as being anti-Semitic.
Caviezel said he was warned against taking the part by Gibson who warned him he would never work in Hollywood again.
'He said, "You'll never work in this town again." I told him, "We all have to embrace our crosses".' Caviezel told an audience of churchgoers in Orlando, Florida.
Since Passion of the Christ, the 42-year-old has only appeared in a handful of films.
Prior to playing Jesus he was considered one of Hollywood rising stars and appeared in The Count of Monte Cristo’ and ‘ngel Eyes with Jennifer Lopez.
One of his biggest hits was in 2000 with time-travel thriller Frequency opposite Dennis Quaid.
Caviezel, a devout Roman Catholic, said he knew playing Jesus would be risky.
'Jesus is as controversial now as he has ever been,’ Caviezel said. ‘Not much has changed in 2,000 years.’
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And what about a movie that would have appealed to the half of the population that opposed the politics in GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER; or INHERIT THE WIND; or INCONVENIENT TRUTH; or MALCOLM X? Why only elect to profit from half of the population?
We might also consider the millions of dollars lost by not producing big-screen, professional equivalents of such underground hits as LOOSE CHANGE or CAMP FEMA. When millions demonstrate an appetitie for fayre such as this, why does Hollywood, pursuer of profit, not chase the market?
It's fairly obvious that Hollywood has other ultimate concerns.
Compare and contrast:
http://www.reelbadarabs.com/
http://www.geniebusters.org/915/35_ministry.htm
For the Talmud see:
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I'm not sure I'd make much of a distinction between the morals of the Torah and the Talmud, there being plenty of supremacism, subversion, genocide etc., in the Torah. These attitudes and behabiours are inherent to Jewish life having been made a religion and custom. That's why good people who happen to be born Jews, like Simone Weil or Gilad Atzmon, opt out of that community: vile things define it and are called good.
Serious analysts do, however, make a distinction between the Torah and Talmud, e.g. Michael A. Hoffman, author of JUDAISM DISCOVERED and Matthew Raphael Johnson PhD. Either would make a good guest. Johnson has his own show devoted to agrarianism, Orthodoxy, and anti-globalisation politics on reasonradionetwork.com. Hoffman blogs at revisionistreview.blogspot.com.
I am from sweden and I never understood the controversy surrounding the passion of the christ. I tell you I am a secular and non religious person and was fascinated by the movie. I think it is brilliant.
ReplyDeleteAnd for my life I do not understand all the hate surrounding it.
The Middle East is currently gearing up for another massive bloodletting slaughter session. A war between Israel v. Egypt + Syria is daily becoming more and more inevitable.
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Hey Dr. Fetzer, this may have been one of your best interviews! Great job by both you and Zan! Keep it up!
ReplyDeleteThis is Zan Overall, reading the comments in December 2012 and wanting to add one.
ReplyDeletePerhaps after talking with Jim Fetzer, I have learned something monumental about Christianity:;
its central figure is pure myth, not a historical person. What is surprising is that he was created
surreptitiously by Roman Emperors as a psyops to
quell Jewish rebels in Palestine. That is why we have the ROMAN Catholic Church today.
Imagine all the fuss for 2000 yeas about someone who did not exist. Pure fiction.
Read the book "Caesar's Messiah" by Joseph Atwill or go to caesarsmessiah.com
Joseph Atwill's "Caesar's Messiah" was made into a film-length documentary which aired this past September in California. Here's one of the promotional videos:
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A lot of interviews with Atwill and his colleague John Hudson can be found by following the suggested videos on YouTube(c). It's referred to as "The Flavian Thesis".
"Talmud" means "teaching", and "Mishnah" and "Gamara" are commentaries written in the margins by chief Jewish religious authorities. Much of the Talmud is a commentary on the "Torah" (five books of Moses) and the "Haftorah" (books of the judges and major profits).
I have a bachelor's degree in Judeo-Christian religion from a Christian perspective from one of the leading university departments in the field, and I made a concentrated study of Jewish traditions. The Bible which the Christians themselves use attest that the Hebrews became the Jews (Yehudim - deriving from a word that refers to their "union" as a chosen group by virtue of the Covenant) as the result of a choice by Jehovah. The Roman agent, Paul of Tarsus, suppressed a dominant Christian theology which insisted that the New Covenant of Jesus should be restricted to the Jews and replaced it with a mystical claim that all baptized in the name of Jesus were by virtue of that "Jews", whose authority resided in Rome rather than Jerusalem. The expansion of the Covenant in this way was very useful to the Roman emperors as a means to spread the authority of Rome, perpetuate slavery, and reduce the standing of the free farmers to serfs - creating the dark ages of what's now referred to as the "Middle Ages".
The Jews of Europe were not allowed to own land (for farming) or to join guilds (the source of paid jobs). The Torah allows Jews to practice usury with non-Jews, but the Roman Church prohibited Christians from practicing usury based on the teachings of Jesus. Thus, one of the few ways Jews could live was to lend money at interest.
Overall's story about Stalin authorizing a pamphlet to the Russian troops endorsing rape and brutality is pure bunk and undoubtedly came into Overall's possession by way of Hitler's anti-Soviet propaganda machine and Hitler-lovers in the U.S. (for instance, the John Birch Society or Aryan Nations or other of their numerous co-thinkers). Such a policy would inevitably have gotten back to the millions of Stalin's supporters in the U.S. and Europe, and have wrecked Stalin's carefully cultivated image of high moral character and as a tireless opponent of fascist barbarism. There are, however, numerous examples where Hitler and his lieutenants called on German soldiers to treat Slavs as non-humans, and kill and enslave them with impunity. Many returning Wehrmacht veterans attested to this in post-war German literature; I know of this firsthand because German literature was my minor. Hitler said that the predatory gleam in the eyes of the wolf must be cultivated in German youth. So much for superior Nazi morality.
I just reached to the point where Overall said that Elvis Presley was part Jewish. Perhaps, but on one side of his family he was pure Sinti (German Gypsy) and on the other a zingaro (mixed-blood Gypsy). This is where he derived the passion he poured into his songs. The Gypsies embrace all religions and all nationalities: this could explain the Star of David on his tomb, assuming Overall's story is true. The name "Dixie" comes from a Gypsy word meaning "overseer" (diximengro) and may have originally been "diximengro tem", or "land of the (slave)overseers". For non-Gypsies the Southern States were like separate countries, but for the Gypsies who traveled among them they were one land. George Burrows' 19th century Gypsy dictionary shows diximengro ="overseer" as an entry: http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext01/rmlav10h.htm Watch this performance of a well-loved Russian Gypsy ballad by American actor Yul Brynner (a zingaro with Russian Gypsy blood) and compare his passion with that of Elvis Presley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoJ_1-sf504 Gypsies say of music that touches the heart that it "hurts", see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWSmiS291CQ
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