tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post9001545965458597574..comments2024-03-02T21:58:21.667-08:00Comments on The Real Deal with Jim Fetzer podcast: John FriendUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-48297898300362088022015-04-16T18:32:17.628-07:002015-04-16T18:32:17.628-07:00Ernst Zundel: Holocaust Denier, Neo-Nazi Propagand...<i>Ernst Zundel: Holocaust Denier, Neo-Nazi Propagandist archive.adl.org/holocaust/zundel.html Ernst Zundel has been a leading Holocaust denier, neo-nazi propagandist and white supremacist ideologue for more than two decades.Ernst Zundel | Southern Poverty Law Center www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/.../<---SPLC lack of intelligence report.</i><br /><br />Get a load of these nasty, venomous, modern-day Bolsheviks and how they unjustly smear the name of a very good, likeable and honest man, something these Jews, homosexuals and deranged white liberals at the Semitic Propaganda & Lie Center in a million generations could never be.<br /><br />FYI, SPLC scum, it's Ernst's right (as well as anyone else's) to deny anything they want to "deny", especially when there is no credible evidence to support the mountain of lies, fabrications, tortured "confessions" of ex-camp commandants and false testimony from so-called "survivors" that comprise the foundation of the fake Jewish holocaust legend.<br /><br />Bottom line: the SPLC and the rest of the tribe at the ADL, Simon Weasel Center, etc. are LIARS. Vicious, scurriflous LIARS. Ernst Zundel and so-called "neo-Nazis" and "white supremacists" speak the God-honest truth (so-called "hate"). PERIOD.<br /><br />Now, for an honest review of the man:<br /><br /><b>Ernst Zundel (born April 24, 1939) is a German-born publisher, author and civil rights activist. He is a towering figure in the worldwide Holocaust revisionist movement and a free speech martyr. For more than seven years he was imprisoned, first in Canada and then in Germany, solely for the peaceful expression of non-conformist views. <br /><br />Ernst Zundel began to dedicate himself to the great task of redeeming the sullied reputation of his fellow Germans. Through his Samisdat publishing house he distributed worldwide a prodigious quantity of books, booklets and leaflets.<br /><br />Zundel is probably best known for his central role in the "Holocaust Trials" of 1985 and 1988. He was brought to court in Toronto on a charge of "publishing false news", and specifically for publishing a reprint edition of Richard Harwood's booklet entitled: Did Six Million Really Die?, originally published in England by the Historical Review Press.<br /><br />Zundel's two lengthy trials - the 1985 trial lasted two months, and the 1988 trial lasted four months - have been the closest thing anywhere to full scale debates on the Holocaust issue. For the first time ever, "Holocaust survivors" and Holocaust historians were closely and critically questioned under oath about their claims and views.<br /><br />He continued his campaigns for justice and truth, and on September 19, 1992 was in London to address, with David Irving and Gregory Lauder-Frost, a Clarendon Club meeting of over 300 people on "The Media - Friend or Enemy of our Freedoms".<br /><br />Returning to Canada, his position there continued to deteriorate, and in 2005 Judge Pierre Blais stripped Zundel of his citizenship and ordered his deportation to Germany after a corrupt and unjust court case, rife with conflict of interest - Blais was a former federal Minister of Justice in charge of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service which provided secret evidence in the proceedings.<br /><br />Zundel was then tried again in Germany and imprisoned for Holocaust Denial. From 2003 until 2010, he was the most prominent political prisoner in the western world. He was freed in March 2010. However, he lives under onerous conditions in Germany and the possibility of being re-arrested at any time for thoughtcrimes looms over him.<br /><br />Energetic, tenacious and courageous, he is dauntless in struggle against apparently insurmountable odds and seemingly invincible adversaries. He is the author of countless booklets, newsletters and essays. He is very popular in some parts of the world. Sweden in particular harbors sympathy for his plight, and he is welcome to come to the Aryan motherland for protection.</b>--Metapedia <br /><br />WLPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-68351899107860010732015-02-01T04:58:55.304-08:002015-02-01T04:58:55.304-08:00In reality, National Socialism and indeed myself, ...In reality, National Socialism and indeed myself, tend to favour the kinds of concerns and ideals in economic affairs you do, OBF. Who doesn't, except Marxists? But most people, thankfully, see that the economic sphere of life is built upon prior social foundations that also require consideration and have value in themselves. Nick Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03462880055597587042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-26871310335244483472015-01-30T11:36:06.517-08:002015-01-30T11:36:06.517-08:00To OBF: Please expound on your theory of governmen...To OBF: Please expound on your theory of government, non-government, or whatever you call it. What system is it you are advocating? How does one have a free market economy without any rules?Compasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04742968251868459927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-44771361405874764122015-01-29T19:05:11.586-08:002015-01-29T19:05:11.586-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.barrybhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055431808069401193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-17134746946796559152015-01-29T19:03:57.598-08:002015-01-29T19:03:57.598-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.barrybhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055431808069401193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-83544049594446291942015-01-28T10:08:23.818-08:002015-01-28T10:08:23.818-08:00Nick Dean said: " clearly there are better an...Nick Dean said: " clearly there are better and worse socialisms, as in fact you go on to admit." <br /><br />No, I do not admit it, you misunderstood. There are _no_ better forms of socialism. <br /><br />Socialism of any type always leads to a lower general standard of living for any group that pursues it. It leads to more poverty [for the broad masses], and war. <br /><br />Nick Dean said: "'national socialism' means just that - a coming together behind the national idea over and above economic or other divisions. " <br /><br />Which means an enforced overriding of individual consumer and producer desires and preferences, and those people instead being forced to produce and consume only what the government dictates - which is exactly what happened in Germany.<br /><br />Nick Dean said: "It is an explicit alternative to economic socialism where factions are pitted against each other in competition for various spoils first confiscated then redistributed by the government. " <br /><br />No, no and no, Nick. National Socialism _ is_ economic socialism; nothing more nothing less- ie a system where almost all individual choices [except those of the Fuhrer] are overridden by government decree. This was/is central to the Nazi socialist doctrine.<br /><br /> Economic socialism was/is its fundamental hallmark, virtually no different from that of the Russian model. <br /><br /> In a free market products/services are freely produced by entrepreneurs at their own risk and must compete for the consumers purchasing of them [or not]. <br /><br />Those products are not "spoils" that have been confiscated and then redistributed by the government. <br /><br />That, [ ie enforced confiscation and redistribution of goods] was/is a central feature of both main forms of socialism, ie the Russian model and the German model. <br /><br />Nick Dean said:" In principle national socialism would not differ in ultimate meaning from free-association. " <br /><br />Complete and utter BS Nick. German National Socialism has nothing to do with the free association of individuals, never has done, never will. <br /><br />German National Socialism was/is an enforced denial of the free market, that is, of the individual free choices of consumers--and of producers, who could , under Nazism, only produce, in the amounts decreed, at prices decreed, when and _if_ allowed. <br /><br />Regards, onebornfreeOnebornfreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17865185718738348312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-66595736856618212432015-01-28T09:36:35.525-08:002015-01-28T09:36:35.525-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onebornfreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17865185718738348312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-61903167083040421302015-01-28T09:34:28.145-08:002015-01-28T09:34:28.145-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Onebornfreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17865185718738348312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-42117621438501630702015-01-28T08:54:29.782-08:002015-01-28T08:54:29.782-08:00@ SW: your attempted character assassination, is t...@ SW: your attempted character assassination, is transparent , and reveals that you have no real points to make. <br /><br />You are just another immature whiner who cannot/refuses to take responsibility for their own life, but blames some other imagined all powerful outside force [in this case the jews], for the pitiful state of their own life. <br /><br />Grow up, get a life, fool.<br /><br />onebornfreeOnebornfreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17865185718738348312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-75475525453847277842015-01-28T04:39:02.113-08:002015-01-28T04:39:02.113-08:00All of Jim's new shows can be found below...ev...All of Jim's new shows can be found below...every episode has a HD video version an audio mp3 and a download button as well a description and links for more info on every show, thanks!<br /><br />http://www.webookyourshow.com/blog/2014/12/06/THE-REAL-DEAL-with-James-H-Fetzer-on-MBC-TV.aspxAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03034616837526751452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-23813393355474114412015-01-26T00:32:43.640-08:002015-01-26T00:32:43.640-08:00Andy, don't you think the embargo has somethin...Andy, don't you think the embargo has something to do with this? What is the point of such an embargo? Note, in the UN, Israel voted WITH the US.<br /><br />Condemned…again: 'Genocidal' US embargo on Cuba slammed by UN for 21st year<br />The UN has urged the US to lift the 52-year trade embargo with Cuba in an almost-unanimous vote. Cuba likened the blockade to “genocide” and said it was disappointed that Obama had not taken measures to lift the disputed embargo.<br />Of the 193 members of the UN assembly, 188 voted to abolish what is widely perceived as an illegal blockade. The only two nations that got behind the US were ISRAEL and the Pacific nation of Palau, while two countries abstained from the vote.<br /><br />This is the 21st year running that the UN has decried the American economic sanctions against the island nation.<br /><br />Compasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04742968251868459927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-34201777543468865252015-01-25T23:13:27.479-08:002015-01-25T23:13:27.479-08:00The TRUE Powers-That-Be (not their squabbling mini...The TRUE Powers-That-Be (not their squabbling minions/factions such as the American CIA and the former Soviet KGB) are the behind-the-scenes, occult-obsessed, ultra-rich. You know, the folks who can start and stop large-scale WARS at will. These are the characters who decided, more than half a century ago, that their experimental, total-surveillance, slave state popularly known as "Revolutionary Cuba" would NEITHER be USA-invaded NOR collapse under the weight of external sanctions and internal systemic flaws -- for as long as the the REAL PTB deemed it necessary to serve their covert, psycho/social-engineering agenda.<br /><br />Haven't you ever wondered WHY the public has been treated (in the controlled, mainstream media) to the "circus" of all those highly publicised stories detailing Uncle Sugar's long string of (sometimes quite goofy) failed attempts to "ice" Fidel and topple his "worker's paradise"???<br /><br />It all tracks back to the DELIBERATELY SABOTAGED Bay of Pigs Invasion and has continued right up to the present "opening up" by the Obamanoids.Andy Tymehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09215870996074492489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-31911718690503343022015-01-25T13:53:24.672-08:002015-01-25T13:53:24.672-08:00Carlos, the Cuban CIA exiles will be back to claim...Carlos, the Cuban CIA exiles will be back to claim what they lost after Batista. Compasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04742968251868459927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-70372038902648759962015-01-25T13:49:44.150-08:002015-01-25T13:49:44.150-08:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDHklw6PV3U
? &#...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDHklw6PV3U<br /> <br />? 'Sicko' Clip: The Truth About HMO's - YouTube <br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />It was Nixon who in 1971, made a deal with Kaiser Permenente to make a profit on healthcare. This is why most Americans are bankrupt today. We've been working three jobs just to buy insurance and most of the time it doesn't even cover the cost of healthcare.Compasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04742968251868459927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-62747703167657570512015-01-25T13:20:56.611-08:002015-01-25T13:20:56.611-08:00Are you kidding, OBF? Must see this movie, "...Are you kidding, OBF? Must see this movie, "Sicko" by Michael Moore.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApqTq_8fS-Y<br /><br />? Sicko Trailer www.kahveevii.com - YouTube Compasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04742968251868459927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-24911248059052721372015-01-25T09:37:59.948-08:002015-01-25T09:37:59.948-08:00Compass said : " You can bet they will get ri...Compass said : " You can bet they will get rid of the great health care Cubans enjoy. " <br /><br />I know nothing about Cuban health care at this time but I'm willing to bet you are referring to some sort of government-run/controlled system. <br /><br />If so, I will say that the Cuban health care system is no more or less of a criminal scam than is any other government-run health-care system [or any other government controlled "system"] , anywhere else in the world. <br /><br />You should know better Joan, surely?<br /><br />Regards, onebornfree.Onebornfreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17865185718738348312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-53845940898522932015-01-25T09:09:33.983-08:002015-01-25T09:09:33.983-08:00"human wave attacks by hordes of American tou..."human wave attacks by hordes of American tourists in loud golf wear yelling “USA,USA!” and waving Visa cards....."<br /><br /><br /><br />" hordes of American tourists "<br /><br /><br />Surely you mean hordes of undercover<br />CIA "tourists"? <br /><br />Not all "tourists" are tourists.Carloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12011612710274898589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-75579386759002117842015-01-24T21:30:21.889-08:002015-01-24T21:30:21.889-08:00"human wave attacks by hordes of American tou..."human wave attacks by hordes of American tourists in loud golf wear yelling “USA,USA!” and waving Visa cards......" <br /><br />LOL, OBF. I don't think we have to fear the obnoxious American tourist but rather the developers who will snap up properties for nothing and then create another Florida. You can bet they will get rid of the great health care Cubans enjoy. <br />Compasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04742968251868459927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-51887261476244027582015-01-24T10:48:12.467-08:002015-01-24T10:48:12.467-08:00Joan, here's an interesting article on Cuba:
...Joan, here's an interesting article on Cuba:<br /><br />[excerpt] "It’s taken over half a century for the US to finally figure out how to neutralize pesky Communist Cuba. Invasions, air raids, crushing sanctions, attempts to murder the Castro leadership by exploding cigars and poisons, diplomatic isolation, poisoning crops – all failed.<br /><br />Now, the lame duck Obama administration has finally figured out how to put an end to Cuba’s Communist system: human wave attacks by hordes of American tourists in loud golf wear yelling “USA,USA!” and waving Visa cards......" <br /><br />http://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/01/eric-margolis/adios-cuba/<br /><br />Regards, onebornfreeOnebornfreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17865185718738348312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-76174220743405724842015-01-23T20:15:07.330-08:002015-01-23T20:15:07.330-08:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9qVUnJcVb0&x-...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9qVUnJcVb0&x-yt-cl=84503534&x-yt-ts=1421914688<br /> <br />? The Whistle Blower, Gilad Atzmon & The OHE (EPK) - YouTube <br /> The music, the production and the thought behind<br />The album 'The Whistle Blower' was recorded in September 2014.<br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />? Jeff Rense in conversation with Gilad Atzmon & Brother Nathanael - YouTube <br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lijIYyC5Ks<br /><br />How to take back US from Jewish power. With Gilad Atzman. Hate speech--still have first ammendment. Listen to this!<br />Compasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04742968251868459927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-53017752208618976812015-01-23T17:05:59.863-08:002015-01-23T17:05:59.863-08:00"Again Joan, I would say that you are getting..."Again Joan, I would say that you are getting upset over nothing, even though I understand your sentiments. ["This is wrong and illogical"]<br /><br />"You are simply refusing to recognize what is essentially only just another small part of the overall price of having a government in the first place that you and everyone else must pay, in my opinion.....OBF<br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />Well, OBF, I'm not THAT upset! I just don't think people ought to go to jail for intellectual inquiry. <br />Compasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04742968251868459927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-2060625176733235422015-01-23T13:25:26.806-08:002015-01-23T13:25:26.806-08:00Let Cuba Live! The Devil’s List of what the United...Let Cuba Live! The Devil’s List of what the United States has done to Cuba<br /><br />On May 31, 1999, a lawsuit for $181 billion in wrongful death, personal injury, and economic damages was filed in a Havana court against the government of the United States. It was subsequently filed with the United Nations. Since that time its fate is somewhat of a mystery.<br /><br />The lawsuit covered the 40 years since the country’s 1959 revolution and described, in considerable detail taken from personal testimony of victims, US acts of aggression against Cuba; specifying, often by name, date, and particular circumstances, each person known to have been killed or seriously wounded. In all, 3,478 people were killed and an additional 2,099 seriously injured.<br /><br />snip No unsuccessful American attacks were deemed relevant, and consequently there was no testimony regarding the many hundreds of unsuccessful assassination attempts against Cuban President Fidel Castro and other high officials, or even of bombings in which no one was killed or injured. <br /><br />Damages to crops, livestock, or the Cuban economy in general were also excluded, so there was no testimony about the introduction into the island of swine fever or tobacco mold.<br /><br />However, those aspects of Washington’s chemical and biological warfare waged against Cuba that involved human victims were described in detail, most significantly the creation of an epidemic of hemorrhagic dengue fever in 1981, during which some 340,000 people were infected and 116,000 hospitalized; this in a country which had never before experienced a single case of the disease. snip.<br /><br />Another section of the complaint described the armed terrorist groups, los banditos, who ravaged the island for five years, from 1960 to 1965, when the last group was located and defeated. These bands terrorized small farmers, torturing and killing those considered (often erroneously) active supporters of the Revolution; men, women, and children. Several young volunteer literacy-campaign teachers were among the victims of the bandits.<br /><br />There was also of course the notorious Bay of Pigs invasion, in April 1961. Although the entire incident lasted less than 72 hours, 176 Cubans were killed and 300 more wounded, 50 of them permanently disabled.<br /><br />The complaint also described the unending campaign of major acts of sabotage and terrorism that included the bombing of ships and planes as well as stores and offices. <br /><br />The most horrific example of sabotage was of course the 1976 bombing of a Cubana airliner off Barbados in which all 73 people on board were killed. There were as well as the murder of Cuban diplomats and officials around the world, including one such murder on the streets of New York City in 1980. <br /><br />This campaign continued to the 1990s, with the murders of Cuban policemen, soldiers, and sailors in 1992 and 1994, and the 1997 hotel bombing campaign, which took the life of a foreigner; the bombing campaign was aimed at discouraging tourism and led to the sending of Cuban intelligence officers to the US in an attempt to put an end to the bombings; from their ranks rose the Cuban Five.<br /><br />To the above can be added the many acts of financial extortion, violence and sabotage carried out by the United States and its agents in the 16 years since the lawsuit was filed. In sum total, the deep-seated injury and trauma inflicted upon on the Cuban people can be regarded as the island’s own 9-11. <br /><br />http://williamblum.org/aer/read/136<br />Compasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04742968251868459927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-90592380907100565662015-01-23T13:17:21.637-08:002015-01-23T13:17:21.637-08:00 James Traficant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedi... James Traficant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <br />Defending John Demjanjuk<br /><br />Traficant championed the unpopular cause of John Demjanjuk, a Ukrainian-born autoworker from Seven Hills, who had been convicted in Israel and sentenced to hang for having been the brutal concentration camp guard Ivan the Terrible For almost a decade, Traficant (along with Pat Buchanan) insisted that Demjanjuk had been denied a fair trial, and been the victim of mistaken identity; in 1993 the Supreme Court of Israel overturned the conviction, on the basis of doubt. Demjanjuk was later deported to Germany on May 11, 2009, after the Supreme Court of the United States refused to overturn his deportation order. Demjanjuk was tried and convicted by a German criminal court of being an accessory to murder, but died before the German Appellate Court could hear his case, thereby voiding the conviction.<br /><br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br /><br />http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/traficant_lashes_out_183.html<br /><br />Traficant Lashes Out at Power of Israel<br /><br />Ohio Congressman Jim Traficant went into prison unbent and unbowed and—despite seven years behind bars—the outspoken Ohio populist remains unbent and unbowed.<br /><br />Assessing his years of torment and imprisonment by the federal authorities Traficant summed it up as follows: <br /><br />I didn’t give a damn what they did to me. And from this day forward, talking with you, I don’t give a damn what anybody does to me. I’m going to say what I think is right, I’m going to do what I think is right. And if it offends some people, then so be it. <br /><br />But if you’re a politician and you support me, you’re in trouble. If you’re a businessman and you give me money on my finance report, you get audited. I was a target. And you know what I’m most proud of? That I was that target. I must have been doing something damn right. I was doing the right things.<br /><br />snip What was it that Traficant said that so exercised the JTA and other powerful pressure groups such as the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which consistently agitated against Traficant during his years in Congress?<br /><br />First of all, Traficant dared to say that he was, in his words, “the number one target of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.” He went on to assert: I believe that Israel has a powerful stranglehold on the American government. They control the members of both the House and the Senate. They have us involved in wars in which we have little or no interest. Our children are coming back in body bags. Our nation is bankrupt over these wars. And if you open your mouth, you get targeted. And if they don’t beat you at the polls, they’ll put you in prison.<br /><br />Compasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04742968251868459927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-40194254073008196632015-01-23T11:13:21.482-08:002015-01-23T11:13:21.482-08:00If the UK government were to vanish tomorrow many ...If the UK government were to vanish tomorrow many people whose speech has offended many others would be hanging from lamp-posts by sundown.<br /><br />And in a state of nature without the civilizing force of government, guys like you who want to be 'individuals' and thumb your nose at your tribe won't last two minutes. Grow up, for God's sake!<br /><br />Nick Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03462880055597587042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-40396274419122368392015-01-23T11:01:54.523-08:002015-01-23T11:01:54.523-08:00"The plain fact of the matter is that German ..."The plain fact of the matter is that German socialism is ultimately no better than the socialism of any other state, before or since." -- OBF<br /><br />OBF, clearly there are better and worse socialisms, as in fact you go on to admit.<br /><br />But in any case, 'national socialism' means just that - a coming together behind the national idea over and above economic or other divisions. <br /><br />It is an explicit alternative to economic socialism where factions are pitted against each other in competition for various spoils first confiscated then redistributed by the government. <br /><br />In principle national socialism would not differ in ultimate meaning from free-association. And in practice did not differ either. Overwhelmingly Germans did want to come together as a nation, and those who did not were free to withdraw from the social contract and associated duties and benefits, Thomas Mann is just one notorious example. <br /><br />You're huffing and puffing at strawmen.Nick Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03462880055597587042noreply@blogger.com