tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post7408973261453643831..comments2024-03-02T21:58:21.667-08:00Comments on The Real Deal with Jim Fetzer podcast: Jim FetzerUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-91102582774978930822014-01-19T19:22:19.929-08:002014-01-19T19:22:19.929-08:00I choose to base my evidence on the fact that the ...I choose to base my evidence on the fact that the clearest versions of Altgens show the Doorway man in a patterned shirt. Therefore, he can't have been Lee Oswald....<br />http://oswaldinthedoorwaynotreally.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/billy-nolan-loveladys-1273-id-points-of.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10996223420229768705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-60085916805731717342014-01-01T18:17:57.806-08:002014-01-01T18:17:57.806-08:00A shooting team appears to have taken a position i...A shooting team appears to have taken a position in the pergola adjacent to Abraham Zapruder. If one enlarges a copy of the Moorman photo and zooms it to this area a figure can be seen crouching or kneeling. The entire left side is visable and appears to be wearing sunglasses and holding a rifle at an upwards angle from their left arm/elbow. A flash of light/smoke is visible in the Nix film at this same area. There also appears to be another figure peering out the top window slit next to the other figure. I feel that this matter should be investigated further by photo experts and could be proof of additional shooters.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06921606888555246937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-58300481582487501592013-12-09T15:22:54.208-08:002013-12-09T15:22:54.208-08:009/11: Chuck Boldwyn. He's very underrated and ...9/11: Chuck Boldwyn. He's very underrated and he helped me a lot I listened to all of those 2010 shows with Chuck at least twice. The debate with Chuck and Morgan Reynolds is what really inspired me to get publicly involved in 9/11 research. <br /><br />Ed Ward is another titan of nuke knowledge. <br /><br />Mark Elsis is guy that may fly under the radar but he's excellent. You can throw <br />Greg Hallett and Jim Viken in there too. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-49816254604143539992013-12-06T16:08:58.153-08:002013-12-06T16:08:58.153-08:00Jim, with all due respect...
1. You don't know...Jim, with all due respect...<br />1. You don't know what was said by LHO nor what specific questions were asked of him by interrogators. Fritz's notes have the un-contexted phrase "out with Bill Shelley in front". If you're going to put your faith in that statement then you cannot dismiss the Bookhout report from the same session that describes that as happening after the confrontation with Baker and truly in the lunchroom.<br />2. You have no proof that anyone's face was "scratched out" in the Altgens photo. None. You make a claim without any evidence to back it up. The Altgens photo was in Ike Altgens custody until it was developed and sent across the wire. Your claims of Paul Rigby stating that there was a window for alteration have not been backed up by Paul Rigby. In fact, he has avoided Ralph's requests on the EF for proof of his claim.<br />3. You can save the egads...your third point is nothing more than circular reasoning. Point two happened therefore point 3 is valid...doesn't cut it. The photo was not altered.<br />4. The man in the doorway has a left shoulder. It is dropped from the level of his right shoulder. The man in the black tie is shown in Weigman as standing where he is in Altgens.<br />5. Your description is impossible. But you are not describing what is taking place in Altgens. Weigman shows that Altgens is legit.<br />6. You are taking a description of someone and applying it to a photograph. Unless you have the heights and weights od people in the photo or the dimensions of the building doorway, you have no way to say how tall the individual shown in Altgens is or how much the person weighs.<br />7. See #6<br />8. Billy Lovelady was documented in the WFAA footage (shown that day unedited on TV), the Hughes footage and the Martin footage as well as Altgens, wearing a long sleeved shirt. His height and weight have no bearing on Altgens because you cannot show how tal anyone is or how much they weigh in that photograph.<br />9. You have no way to show how much the person identified as Billy Lovelady in either the Martin footage or Hughes footage weighs. The footage proves that Billy Lovelady's shirt was unbuttoned.<br />I could now resort to personal attacks and name calling as you normally do when someone disagrees with you, but I won't.<br />You have no evidence for any of your claims. You simply have claims.<br />You have no evidence what so ever that Altgens was altered in any way. None...bpete1969https://www.blogger.com/profile/03892135951262929278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-19427718548907525882013-12-04T04:20:30.483-08:002013-12-04T04:20:30.483-08:00Well, let's see. (1) Lee said he was "out...Well, let's see. (1) Lee said he was "out with Bill Shelley in front". We have articles about this and show Fritz' notes. (2) Bill Shelley appears to have been out in front but his face has been scratched out in the Altgens6. We have articles about this and demonstrate the point. (3) The photo has been altered. Egad! When a man's face has been scratched out, how could any rational mind deny it? (4) The man in the doorway has no left shoulder. Is this something that conspiracycritic7 takes to be normal? (5) Black Tie Man is both in front of and behind Doorman at the same time. Must I explain that this is optically and physically impossible? (6) The man in the doorway is of slender build, is wearing a finely textured long sleeved shirt, a tee-shirt slightly stretched at the neck, is about 5'10" and around 130 lbs.<br />(7) Lee Oswald is of slender build, wearing finely textured long sleeved shit and a tee-shirt slightly stretched at the neck, and is 5'10" and weights about 130 lbs when he was arrested. (8) Billy Lovelady was wearing a red-and-white vertically striped short-sleeved shirt and is 3" shorter and 15-20 lbs heavier than Oswald. He appears to have been standing to Doorman's left at the time. (9) Another figure wearing a red-and-black checkered shirt can be seen in the foreground. He outweighs Doorman by at least 30 lbs and is bulging out of his shirt, which is buttoned up to the top. He has the profile of a gorilla and looks nothing like either Billy Lovelady or Doorman. One of us may be peddling nonsense, but that would not be me. I am sorry, but your post reveals you to be some kind of shill or a complete and utter moron. I am not in the position to decide which and you could be both. In any case, your post reveals you as someone no one should take seriously. Jim Fetzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539733121153973439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-41608593484987562872013-12-03T11:51:55.046-08:002013-12-03T11:51:55.046-08:00Any fool can see the Altgens6 was altered, with bi...Any fool can see the Altgens6 was altered, with bizarre characters added. You choose to base your argument on light vs. dark brown. How pathetic.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16057136443638236931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-60227594962273720982013-12-03T09:44:38.974-08:002013-12-03T09:44:38.974-08:00The Oswald in the doorway nonsense has got to stop...The Oswald in the doorway nonsense has got to stop Jim. It's has all the merit of a fairytale craftily woven by yourself and Ralph. No evidence, no witness testimony, no time to alter the Altgens, no proof it was altered...everything you state is pure opinion stated as a declared fact when it is in fact, not. I have the picture but can't post it here of Oswalds belongings scattered on the floor in his rooming house...and one of the things is a light brown shirt which is exactly what Baker said he saw....not the dark brown one he was arrested in. What are the odds you say? Slim to none? Well, Slim just won...and once again you fail to address any of Bpete's claims above, you are many things, but a photo analyst isn't one of them...All this nonsense about black tie man being in front of and behind at the same is horsecrap...All you have are an Anthropology teachers photo shop creations and a whole lot of bloviating...nothing else...If after all you've done, this is how you wanna be remembered? The laughing stock of JFK research? It puts EVERYTHING you do into question...The only shilling being done here is by you in your desperate quest to be the one to break this thing wide open...you are barking up the wrong tree....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-28991814057262803912013-12-03T08:44:10.049-08:002013-12-03T08:44:10.049-08:00It is wonderful to see Dr. Fetzer adding new and e...It is wonderful to see Dr. Fetzer adding new and evolving material into his presentations, specifically the Lansky/Jewish Mob/Zionist/Israel component. <br /><br />Those who say "Israel did it" don't advance the argument far enough. It is the larger context of the Satanic elite, who have their own Thermonuclear nation, Israel as their headquarters for their global crime syndicate. They ultimately give the orders and use their stooges within gov't, CIA, Mossad, FBI etc to do the deeds.Mopar21277https://www.blogger.com/profile/11829513293753226979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-26240737260948878942013-12-02T15:00:06.604-08:002013-12-02T15:00:06.604-08:00Recommending podcasts in which YOU have featured,...Recommending podcasts in which YOU have featured, Clare? Hardly professional behavior on your part, Clare. <br /><br />How vain and self-important can you get, Clare?<br /><br />Your comment, Clare, is one that can be safely ignored by all.Doug Hendersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12504028345626153436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-61693236122555760712013-12-02T12:36:52.868-08:002013-12-02T12:36:52.868-08:00Todd: Try jfetzer@d.umn.edu It should work.Todd: Try jfetzer@d.umn.edu It should work.Jim Fetzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539733121153973439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-29435481994248894712013-12-02T12:11:59.231-08:002013-12-02T12:11:59.231-08:00To Charles Frith and Allan Crowe:
John McCarthy&#...To Charles Frith and Allan Crowe:<br /><br />John McCarthy's 1st interview (Vietnam assassination squad Operation Cherry), Bart Sibrel (Apollo Moon Hoax, & yes, though he punched an astronaut, the content of the interview is great), Ed Haslam (different interviews regarding New Orleans bioweapon from cancer with discussions of Judyth Vary Baker, Oswald's lover in New Orleans), Robert Wilcox (Assassination of General Patton), Peter Janney (Mary's Mosaic - Mary Meyer's assassination after JFK's murder), Clare Kuehn/"Total411" (John Lennon Assassination), Clare Kuehn (Paul is Dead - Beatles), "Dangerous Dan" Marvin (US mostly international but sometimes domestic assassin, reformed, wrote to GHW Bush, knew of JFK as hit from class taken on military base in 60s).Clare Kuehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767270035823206231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-40919273218689533902013-12-02T04:09:31.994-08:002013-12-02T04:09:31.994-08:00Would SOMEBODY please give ONE single piece of CRE...Would SOMEBODY please give ONE single piece of CREDIBLE and IRREFUTABLE evidence that puts Lee Harvey Oswald on the sixth floor of the TSBD at the time the shots were allegedly fired from that location on 22 November 1963?<br /><br />Over 50 years later and still NOBODY has done this. <br /><br />Isn't it about time SOMEBODY did?<br /><br />Gerald Whitinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01245913542526556096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-59424456865347831762013-12-01T20:13:06.864-08:002013-12-01T20:13:06.864-08:00It's very unclear to me the extent to which yo...It's very unclear to me the extent to which you are familiar with the evidence. For example, only two spent shell casings were found in the alleged "assassin's lair". Have you watched "What happened to JFK--and why it matters today" or "JFK Part 1: A National Security Event - Oswald didn't do it" and "JFK Part 2: A National Security Event - How it was done"? You are displaying a lot of ignorance about the basics of the case. I think you will want to listen to my interview with Allen Weisbecker if you think that I am incapable of acknowledging mistakes or of learning from others. Then you can admit to me that you were wrong about me, OK? I can't wait.Jim Fetzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539733121153973439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-27169075827097170512013-11-30T16:57:15.388-08:002013-11-30T16:57:15.388-08:00Another staged non-event of a comment fairy "...Another staged non-event of a comment fairy "story" from the shit from Ennis, Sheehan. Why Professor Fetzer doesn't just block this pshea twollocks is a mystery to everyone on this blog.Gerald Whitinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01245913542526556096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-78168279550555858012013-11-30T10:32:13.498-08:002013-11-30T10:32:13.498-08:00Too Obvious? Let me tell you what is too obvious. ...Too Obvious? Let me tell you what is too obvious. It is too obvious that you are incapable of admitting you are wrong about anything.<br />Richard Hooke has spent the better part of a year trying to convince people that his refrigerator art consisting of pointing to blurred pixels and claiming absolute matches is an exact science. You in one breath dismiss his claims that Altgens wasn't altered but in the next breath say he's offered proof of something that is nothing more that opinion.<br />You mention what someone says Marina Oswald says 50 years after the fact but you dismiss the fact that she did more than anyone to convict LHO in the eyes of public opinion 50 years ago.<br />If I were shilling for the government I could have simply stated that the WC says LHO jacked 3 rounds at the presidential limo and left it at that but I didn't. I provided concrete examples of EVIDENCE which you just dismiss with the wave of a hand as if they don't exist. Evidence that goes to show the "official" story isn't legit but all that matters to you is the fact that someone shows the rest of the world where you have an elementary grasp of the testimony and evidence in this case.<br />It's clear who is doing the shilling here but in this case it's for the purpose of selling tickets for conference seats but thankfully as evidenced by your last one, not too many people bought your tripe.bpete1969https://www.blogger.com/profile/03892135951262929278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-72942732695012173612013-11-30T09:09:39.938-08:002013-11-30T09:09:39.938-08:00You are way too obvious to take anyone in. I know...You are way too obvious to take anyone in. I know you love to shill for the government and I have come to expect rubbish from you.<br /><br />Richard has shown dozens of similarities between the shirt on Doorman and the shirt that Lee was wearing when he was arrested. <br /><br />As Ed Tatro informed me in Olney, IL, he spoke with Marina about the photo and she told him, "That's Lee's shirt!" and that she had washed it.<br /><br />The man in the red-and-black checkered shirt is far too robust to be Doorman. I think you are going to have to come up with some other scam to take anyone in.<br /><br />He must outweigh him by around 40 lbs and bulging out of his shirt, which is buttoned up to the neck. And he looks nothing like Billy Lovelady.<br /><br />Anyone can go back to our studies on VT and determine this for themselves. A good on is "The JFK War: The Challenging Case of Robert Groden".<br /><br />But there are many others, including "JFK believe it or not: Oswald wasn't even a shooter!" Gorden may be a challenging case, but you are not.Jim Fetzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539733121153973439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-83549594795910502542013-11-30T02:56:07.626-08:002013-11-30T02:56:07.626-08:00Baker didn't change anything. Ball tried to ge...Baker didn't change anything. Ball tried to get Baker to identify Oswald's arrest shirt 3 times and Baker refused. He said repeatedly that Oswald was dressed differently. Oswald stated in his interrogation that he changed his pants and then stated that he changed his pants and shirt. It's all there in Fritz's notes that you cling to when you say Oswald claimed to be outside.<br />No one identified Doorman as being Oswald. Every single witness identified him as Lovelady. <br />Black tie man is seen in Weigamn as standing to Lovelady's left. <br />Lovelady was identified as the man in the red and (actually) blue plaid shirt.<br />I have come to realize the problem. You've brought a baseball and bat in an attempt to reach the goal post.<br />You're playing the wrong game.bpete1969https://www.blogger.com/profile/03892135951262929278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-77373396969746841402013-11-29T21:10:46.169-08:002013-11-29T21:10:46.169-08:00I don't think anyone will misunderstand that I...I don't think anyone will misunderstand that I meant none from the alleged "assassin's lair", which I explain several times subsequently.<br /><br />Baker was no doubt under pressure to refuse to confirm this crucial point. But what would be the probability of such similarity in clothing by chance? Next to none.<br /><br />He didn't change shirts, which is nonsense. Doorman cannot have been Lovelady. He was not his height, weight or build and was not wearing a short sleeved, red and white vertically striped shirt.<br /><br />Obviously, BTM is an anomaly, since he is both in front of and behind Doorman at the same time. I am not responsible for what anyone else may say. That is so obvious that I can't believe you are contest it. <br /><br />The man in the red-and-black checkered shirt is not Lovelady. He looks nothing like him, as we have explained many times in many places. You have done more than I would have expected, but you have not hit the ball--only strikes and misses. Jim Fetzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539733121153973439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-86118064570668697222013-11-29T21:10:10.173-08:002013-11-29T21:10:10.173-08:00I don't think anyone will misunderstand that I...I don't think anyone will misunderstand that I meant none from the alleged "assassin's lair", which I explain several times subsequently.<br /><br />Baker was no doubt under pressure to refuse to confirm this crucial point. But what would be the probability of such similarity in clothing by chance? Next to none.<br /><br />He didn't change shirts, which is nonsense. Doorman cannot have been Lovelady. He was not his height, weight or build and was not wearing a short sleeved, red and white vertically striped shirt.<br /><br />Obviously, BTM is an anomaly, since he is both in front of and behind Doorman at the same time. I am not responsible for what anyone else may say. That is so obvious that I can't believe you are contest it. <br /><br />The man in the red-and-black checkered shirt is not Lovelady. He looks nothing like him, as we have explained many times in many places. You have done more than I would have expected, but you have not hit the ball--only strikes and misses. Jim Fetzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539733121153973439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-11611224577666980832013-11-29T13:01:27.168-08:002013-11-29T13:01:27.168-08:00Dr. Fetzer sounded fine. Although fifty years late...Dr. Fetzer sounded fine. Although fifty years later, it may be difficult to inspire the masses to care about anything not presented to them by our state controled media,thankfully there are a handful of individuals who seek the truth about that day. If you are "sick" of this story, you are on the wrong blog and I question your motives. Additional proof ALL evidence was altered is helpful to those who care. You seem motivated solely to push your disinformation agenda.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16057136443638236931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-26962320065894153912013-11-29T11:51:10.307-08:002013-11-29T11:51:10.307-08:00Jim,
In your presentation you place great signific...Jim,<br />In your presentation you place great significance on the testimony of Baker where Oswald's demeanor is concerned. however, Baker also testified that Oswald was dressed differently when he saw him at the DPD later in the afternoon and repeatedly refused to identify Oswald's arrest shirt as the shirt he was wearing when he saw Oswald earlier at the TSBD. Doesn't the fact that Oswald changed shirts undermine the claims of Richard Hooke and Ralph Cinque about the points of identification between Oswald and Doorman?<br />Secondly, in the beginning of your talk you stated that no shots were fired from the TSBD but at the end of your talk you stated that 1 to 3 shots were fired from the TSBD by Mac Wallace.<br />Thirdly, you stated that we have to take the testimony of Shelley and Arnold seriously when they stated that Oswald was near the lunchroom when they said he was and yet you totally dismiss all of the witness testimony that stated your "doorman" was Lovelady. In addition, there is a far greater chance that if Oswald was in the doorway, he was captured in Weigman and Darnell's footage standing in the NW corner of the top step and referred to by many as Prayer Man. Why does the OIC base their premise of Oswald's innocence on an altered Altgens photo when your own Richard Hooke claims that "black tie man" is not an anomaly, the "black man in profile" is not an anomaly and "doorman" wasn't altered at all?<br />Lastly, why do you continue to claim that Lovelady was wearing a short sleeved shirt when all film documentation shows that he was clearly wearing a long sleeved plaid shirt?<br />Now as for your demand that I state why you say these things, I am not about to play that game. I have no idea why you make the claims above when the documentation clearly contradicts your position.bpete1969https://www.blogger.com/profile/03892135951262929278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-7759061478940533152013-11-29T09:22:38.673-08:002013-11-29T09:22:38.673-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16057136443638236931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-77131332244876210702013-11-29T07:40:29.802-08:002013-11-29T07:40:29.802-08:00you sound very muted and unmotivated here jim. as ...you sound very muted and unmotivated here jim. as if you are sick to death of telling all these 'stories'. I don't blame you though. I am sick of hearing them as well. stories. all stories. kennedy's death was staged.psheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00450736873877898876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-84762936176099552932013-11-29T04:49:54.258-08:002013-11-29T04:49:54.258-08:00After listening to Dr. Fetzer's remarks, it se...After listening to Dr. Fetzer's remarks, it seems the shot from Commerce, may have been a fatal one. My attempts to email Dr. Fetzer directly were unsuccessful. Our government still utilizes the vast resources at their disposal to keep us in the dark.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16057136443638236931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-91802328131141121792013-11-29T04:35:13.650-08:002013-11-29T04:35:13.650-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16057136443638236931noreply@blogger.com