tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post1811972856597063232..comments2024-03-02T21:58:21.667-08:00Comments on The Real Deal with Jim Fetzer podcast: Jim Fetzer / Judyth Vary BakerUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger106125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-62834172262316044032014-02-22T21:20:41.655-08:002014-02-22T21:20:41.655-08:00Jim, I know you stand firmly behind JVB's narr...Jim, I know you stand firmly behind JVB's narrative, but surely you know that such autopsy data could have been supplied to her by her "handlers" IF she WERE an entreprenurial/disinformational shill. Therefore this is not proof.<br /><br />But I agree that she does come across (IMHO) as a most compelling memoirist, seemingly privy to a whole host of previously not-circulated details that help us tie together the loose ends of our otherwise still-ragged vision of the "last days" of the Riley Coffee Company and David Ferrie's "mousing around".<br /><br />It's been a while since I first paid attention to the JVB story, and at present I can't recall what, if anything, she had to say about the widely reprinted collection of candid photos of Lee's Russian sojourn.<br /><br />Did she agree that the guy in the picture was the SAME fellow she once loved in Lousiana? Did she express some misgivings? Or did she come right out and proclaim that the Russian photos are of SOMEONE ELSE?<br /><br />The Russian Lee and the New Orleans Lee sure don't look the same to me, Jim, and you, of all people, know I'm not the Lone Ranger on this matter.Andy Tymehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09215870996074492489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-38586082822114485022014-02-22T12:26:39.347-08:002014-02-22T12:26:39.347-08:00Yes, I asked Judyth, who confirmed that he was &qu...Yes, I asked Judyth, who confirmed that he was "well hung" and circumcised, which was indeed the case based upon autopsy photos. So I think he gets a high ranking even on the most personal questions about Lee's anatomy.Jim Fetzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16693289419736393961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-36465748666783500482014-02-19T04:10:40.903-08:002014-02-19T04:10:40.903-08:00Well, that "millions of men" was partly ...Well, that "millions of men" was partly a joke of course, or an obvious exaggeration.<br /><br />Your numbers aren't very consistent. According to Truman, both H&N yielded 20kt. Again, Los Alamos Laboratories stated 15kt +- 20% for H, and 21kt +- 10% for N (http://tinyurl.com/qjpfave). You claim 11kt and 20kt. The numbers are all over the place here. That indicates you don't have a clue.<br /><br />It is now clear that you cannot point out anything in the published films or photos of Hiroshima that indicates 1 big bang there. <br /><br />Could just as well have been Mrs O’Leary and her cow, who kicked over the lantern which began the Great Chicago Fire in 1871 by setting the straw on fire which set the barn on fire. Could just as well have been Mrs O’Leary and her cow again, who demolished Hiroshima, that according to the published films and photos of the event. We don't even need firebombs to explain the damages. So why not Mrs O’Leary and her cow? Prove it wasn't her. Illustration of this WMD here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mrs_OLeary%27s_cow.jpg<br /><br />You didn't comment on Don's blooper. He put up the reported smoke plume in Nagasaki while discussing Hiroshima.El Buggohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712858108337814462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-31010009357385629602014-02-19T04:07:34.012-08:002014-02-19T04:07:34.012-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.El Buggohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712858108337814462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-23132727155948870452014-02-18T16:20:47.162-08:002014-02-18T16:20:47.162-08:00You just haven't got a clue what your talking ...You just haven't got a clue what your talking about, you spout nonsense like millions of people working for 5 years and expect people to listen to you? Clearly you know nothing about the Manhattan project which didn't start until late 1942 and didn't employ millions of people at all. <br /><br />Little Boy yielded 11kt, Fat Man/Gadget was somewhat bigger, around 20kt.<br /><br />The Gelbi bank building was subjected to a blast force of only 5psi which is barely enough to break a human ear drum. Yet you repeatedly say why was it left standing? Same for the chimneys, the wood and paper buildings were burnt by the fireball but the blast wave wasn't great enough in size nor pressure to destroy the brick chimneys.<br /><br />There is nothing at all suspicious about Hiroshima, and a proper study of the facts proves this. Quite clearly you haven't studied the facts, either that or you are deliberately being misleading, as Don suggests.Ian Greenhalghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10688759161975670079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-55485477766528292072014-02-18T15:21:09.341-08:002014-02-18T15:21:09.341-08:00Got it, Jim!!
We're now back to DEFCON 5, Fad...Got it, Jim!!<br /><br />We're now back to DEFCON 5, Fade Out.<br /><br />Geez, man! That was close!!!Marc MacLeodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03161268785179354496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-45809522879010486812014-02-18T15:13:31.233-08:002014-02-18T15:13:31.233-08:00The one thing he did not lose is his voice.The one thing he did not lose is his voice.Stooy44https://www.blogger.com/profile/09347878945674182794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-59387413221588223402014-02-18T14:53:12.801-08:002014-02-18T14:53:12.801-08:00Gentlemen, let's act like gentlemen. We have ...Gentlemen, let's act like gentlemen. We have had a lot of Clare-bashing. And Gary Miller has made a lot of ad hom posts. So be so kind as to clean up your act. Clare can moderate her enthusiasm for PID and let this forum focus on the shows at hand. I would appreciate cooperation from all sides.Jim Fetzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539733121153973439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-64137394824887085852014-02-18T14:14:51.907-08:002014-02-18T14:14:51.907-08:00Roget, forgive me. I did not mean to insult your ...Roget, forgive me. I did not mean to insult your bona fide family name. Thanks for the clarification.Jim Fetzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539733121153973439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-62051502206013996072014-02-18T14:12:12.658-08:002014-02-18T14:12:12.658-08:00Very funny, Allison. I love PGHBPOIA! The only pro...Very funny, Allison. I love PGHBPOIA! The only problem is that there is no evidence that Paul lost his balls but instead may have lost his head. We have to deal with the evidence, where I find the theme of BILLY'S BACK! to be quite fascinating and highly plausible.Jim Fetzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539733121153973439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-80444399892637329012014-02-18T13:45:16.629-08:002014-02-18T13:45:16.629-08:00Thanks for your comment, Ian.
I can maybe accept ...Thanks for your comment, Ian.<br /><br />I can maybe accept that part of the story on the several million men who worked for five years, in total secret, and created that that devise you described.<br /><br />But a completely other question is whether that devise worked, and was dropped on Hiroshima and destroyed the city. That is the official story of course, even if it was more predictable and simpler to just throw down some old fashion firebombs and blame the damages on a new monster weapon.<br /><br />Re: optimum for a 5 kiloton weapon, but too low for the 11kt that the device actually yielded<br /><br />I'm confused here. So the damages after the reported nuke was lower than it should have been because it was detonated in a too low altitude? Well, that should at least have been helpful for you guys, when you should locate Ground Zero for us in any of the published films or photos of the event.<br /><br />You state 11kt. Truman stated 20kt, and Los Alamos Laboratories stated 15kt plus minus 20% (http://tinyurl.com/qjpfave). I understand your need now to underplay the Hiroshima bomb performance - you are very consistent there I have noticed.<br /><br />Around here we had a 0.15kt bomb that went off in the harbor during WWll. About 150 killed, 5000 homeless and about 5000 wounded. Basically wounded by exploding window glass. No (or very few) such report from H&N. Same goes for the reports on ear drum breaks.<br /><br />The evidence for Ground Zero in Hiroshima presented by Don here from 1:55 to 3:30 is ridiculous: http://youtu.be/AjPm9Vo_pYU?t=1m55s<br /><br />He picked some reports by Pentagons Propaganda Team that was engaged to collect and manufacture evidence for a nuke blast. If this is the best you have, you have nothing.<br /><br />The significance of photos: If you have attended a wedding some time, you can be sure that the photos from that event will be supported by the stories. Even though not all stories from the wedding can be supported by photos. So if they showed you a photo of the bride, dancing with King Kong, you know that the photo is doctored or it was from some other event than the wedding you attended.<br /><br />Same goes for Hiroshima; the photos must be supported by the stories, and cannot or should not contradict the story. If no photos or films support any traces of 1 huge explosion in Hiroshima, the photos don't support the story we have been told.<br /><br />Gelbi bank building at Hiroshima was 380 meters sideways from, and about 600 meters below the alleged nuke explosion and blast/heat wave center. The flat roof survived there too - completely undisturbed as far as I can tell. And how about all the standing chimneys Ian? <br /><br />Re: more rubbish from Buggo.<br /><br />What is your comet for Don who put up the reported smoke plume from Nagasaki when he was talking about Hiroshima?. Embarrassing for a Nuclear Demolition Analyst to not know the difference, Ian?<br /><br /><br />El Buggohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712858108337814462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-77753906233102842142014-02-18T13:45:05.276-08:002014-02-18T13:45:05.276-08:00This is disgraceful behavior from Clare Kuehn. An ...This is disgraceful behavior from Clare Kuehn. An unprovoked attack. It's Pearl Harbor all over again! Something has to be done.<br />Appeasement is not an option.Marc MacLeodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03161268785179354496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-76818778909239422132014-02-18T12:45:55.830-08:002014-02-18T12:45:55.830-08:00Clare Kuehn's unwarranted and unsolicited comm...Clare Kuehn's unwarranted and unsolicited comment to Gary Miller is a prime example of this troll Clare Kuehn's despicable behavior.<br />Attacking somebody who has not posted a comment and who is, in fact, not engaged in any exchanges must rank as the vilest act that has been seen on this blog in a long time. Clare Kuehn's unprovoked attack on Gary Miller is, of itself, a sickening provocation and an outrage and calls for the immediate and strongest sanctioning of Clare Kuehn.<br /><br /><br />Alan Hyneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05882674384774627381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-5607567314240011122014-02-18T12:00:45.809-08:002014-02-18T12:00:45.809-08:00Take a hike, Clare!! Go learn to punctuate simple ...Take a hike, Clare!! Go learn to punctuate simple and complex sentences. Pay particular attention to the use of the comma. <br /><br />Have you really nothing better to do with your time than troll <br />Jim Fetzer's blog, waiting and hoping, for someone to hurl imagined insults at you?<br /><br />Get a life, Clare!! Soon!!!<br />Gary Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01898293606199069498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-82257324570112520002014-02-18T08:50:53.399-08:002014-02-18T08:50:53.399-08:00Gary Miller has gone through and removed all his c...Gary Miller has gone through and removed all his comments, all his accusations that I called Paul a dingbat, and other vitriol against me, instead of apologizing (if he realized I didn't say that Paul was a dingbat, or deserved vitriol). His comments are gone, as if he's hiding. The content was vitriolic. How about an apology, Gary, if that is your intent, instead of wiping your statements to hide? -- Aside: I removed my own comment (directly above) only to adjust the statement here and repost it.Clare Kuehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767270035823206231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-13580349339478336902014-02-18T07:32:54.867-08:002014-02-18T07:32:54.867-08:00I know you didn't mean it. It would have just ...I know you didn't mean it. It would have just read that way for nastier people toward me, and I was pre-empting that.Clare Kuehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767270035823206231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-2705583147550221472014-02-18T05:36:39.228-08:002014-02-18T05:36:39.228-08:00Again, more rubbish from Buggo.
The Little Boy bo...Again, more rubbish from Buggo.<br /><br />The Little Boy bomb dropped on Hiroshima was a one-off design, never used again. It was the first design of A-bomb devised and was an expedient design that was guaranteed to work rather than be efficient. The bomb used a mixture of 50% enriched U235 and 89% enriched U235 in order to be ready in time, ideally, it should have used only 89% enriched U235 but insufficient supplies were avialable. The yield of the device was not known prior to detonation, they had to guess what altitude to explode it so compromised due to not knowing the yield. The optimum altitude to detonate an A-bomb is that which will maximise the area which will experience a 5pst overpressure, which is enough to break a human ear drum but not enough to destroy a hardened concrete structure, hence the survival of concrete buildings like the Bank of Japan.<br /><br />Little Boy was detonated at an altitude of somewhere 1850-1900 feet which is optimum for a 5 kiloton weapon, but too low for the 11kt that the device actually yielded, so the damage on the ground was considerably less than might have been. The Americans were conservative in setting the detonation altitude as too low was less of an error than too high, the result was that the explosion was less damaging than it might have been, not quite a dud or flash in the sky, but also not the level of damage an 11kt device is capable of if deployed optimally.<br /><br />Buggo should study the facts rather than spout BS based on looking at some pictures.Ian Greenhalghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10688759161975670079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-14668312155390416092014-02-18T03:30:39.977-08:002014-02-18T03:30:39.977-08:00I intended no such implication, Clare, and apolog...I intended no such implication, Clare, and apologise for the ambiguity.<br /><br />Fuddle duddle!!Stooy44https://www.blogger.com/profile/09347878945674182794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-5417370459066521502014-02-18T01:43:47.010-08:002014-02-18T01:43:47.010-08:00Square brackets are used in scholarship to mean th...Square brackets are used in scholarship to mean the current author is making an addition to a quotation, or, if quoting oneself, that one is making an addition to one's own previous words. No "rambling, inane and disjointed gibberish."<br /><br />It is true one can misread the sentence as I wrote it originally. It has both possibilities, but is not wrong; wrong would be that it could not have the possibility which I intended and it does. Now, let's get back on topic, please.Clare Kuehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767270035823206231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-47031085074166133632014-02-18T01:40:27.401-08:002014-02-18T01:40:27.401-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Clare Kuehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767270035823206231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-51616087784207060992014-02-17T17:02:59.731-08:002014-02-17T17:02:59.731-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Gary Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01898293606199069498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-76737436382914420572014-02-17T16:47:30.024-08:002014-02-17T16:47:30.024-08:00Okay, Allison and Pshea:
1. Why does Paul have to...Okay, Allison and Pshea:<br /><br />1. Why does Paul have to be dead? Because an ad hoc explanation from a general impression of cultic material swirling around the Beatles later, and their having some interest in strange religion before (but more lighthearted in general), does not explain away the grief, the constant theme of death by car crash with grisly mentions.<br /><br />2. Paul sipping mai tais, etc., does not account for how a prima facie honest problem, as an explanation (i.e., a death as quite real and a problem), would be quite naturally and simply solved here by getting a double. Unusual, yes. Lying, yes. Troubling to them and to us, yes. But more natural than plotting within the Beatles for just having fun with horrible grief, or plotting with MK people to kill Paul or send him away.<br /><br />One can see the grief and awkwardness in the Beatles. One can feel it. They refer to it. Their work changes. He died.<br /><br />And John drew the sad and accurate little dead friend.<br /><br />Now, let's not discuss PID more here. Okay?<br />There will be a show coming up soon. How about save it for there.<br /><br />pshea: please desist with the Culto stuff, at least for this Baker thread. It is, in general. ad hoc added to ad hoc, making complexity which does not work. Chiarini can't string most identifications of people together properly.<br /><br />Baker is quite ordinary and dedicated, and people who have not got spook credentials (McAdam) or who are not angry at her (Lifton) know how to look at the overall honest tone, features, naturalness, hurt, humanity, and some proof points and friends who vouched for her.Clare Kuehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767270035823206231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-65949748409900532482014-02-17T16:33:36.406-08:002014-02-17T16:33:36.406-08:00Stooy, you are implying I am not good people, and ...Stooy, you are implying I am not good people, and I think you don't mean that, based on your other discussions with me.<br /><br />I would have called him worse, but refrained, unlike some people here.Clare Kuehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767270035823206231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-67333735448453785612014-02-17T16:32:18.464-08:002014-02-17T16:32:18.464-08:00I said ( ... , dingbat.) It was in an aside to the...I said ( ... , dingbat.) It was in an aside to the speaker.<br /><br />You misunderstood it as: "(Though I'm sure, in spirit, he likes the attention, dingbat [as he, i.e., Paul, is].)"<br /><br />My punctuation was fine. You can go on about this all you like and you are still wrong. The entire statement was in parenthesis because the whole idea was an aside.Clare Kuehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767270035823206231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759924423263977907.post-64316878011295840922014-02-17T16:21:49.506-08:002014-02-17T16:21:49.506-08:00Right, but has anybody run that by Marina?
But pe...Right, but has anybody run that by Marina?<br /><br />But perhaps there may be something a lot less delicate than that. Maybe dude liked to put onions on his ice cream .. something of that nature that was real personal and singular. <br /><br />However, females comparing notes about bedroom behavior is probably a damn good indicator. <br /><br />My female friends assure me of this<br /><br />But in any event somebody needs to get these women on the phone together and either dial Judith into the story by getting Marina to confirm what she knows about Lee or dismissing this as but yet another business venture to make a couple of bucks and get some face time.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09313556132326090944noreply@blogger.com