9/11 in historical context
Friday, March 5, 2010
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thanks for this link. Another version with better quality of my voice only is up at http://ewing2001.blip.tv/file/3273847/. The related informations are up at http://nicohistory.webnode.com/ and http://friendfeed.com/ewing2001 .
ReplyDeletesound is terrible!!! cant get the message if i can't get the signal......!!!!
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ReplyDeleteSorry for deleting the last post. Wanted to edit for easier reading. Here goes again:
ReplyDeleteThank you Nico for your efforts.
I would like to outline something reasonable, about a fascinating discovery you made. Your discovery info is on your "Hisstory" page at http://nicohistory.webnode.com/a1910-1920/
I will quote your words from that page in a 2nd, separate post, for lack of space here.
You discovered a link between the 9/11 "amateur" films and the British WWII Sykewar efforts at the Nazi camps -- particularly Bergen-Belsen, of the Jewish-and-Polish Holocaust.
For those reading this post, who don't know of Sykewar's role in the filming and artifact-finding at Bergen-Belsen and elsewhere, I should digress:
Sykewar was involved, innocently or not, in the Holocaust revelations; therefore discovery of the 9/11 connection to Sykewar film companies is fascinating.
Sykewar's presence and role is acknowledged within official history, but often only in snippets. (Few ordinary people therefore now even realize Sykewar's multiple presence at the camps and at Nuremberg later.) Any debate is over the nature of the role -- i.e., sinister or not -- not the whether they had a big role at the time.
The facts as known objectively simply are: Sykewar was all over the Holocaust revelation story from its inception. Sykewar did the films and found the infamous first artifacts, now discredited by ALL types of historians: the shrunken heads and human lampshades, etc.
Thus to clarify for those unfamiliar with the issues: whereas Sykewar's role was co-incidental, as considered by official history, if they mention it clearly at all -- as in, Sykewar was the "best" unit to make the films, and their artifact-finding was an overzealous goodhearted mistake -- to deniers, Sykewar's role was the polar opposite: entirely sinister.
Whatever the truth in an absolute sense, the Sykewar connections to the Holocaust story from Nuremberg and before, are fact and are legion.
Thus the 3 hypothetical possibilities are obvious:
a) Sykewar was NOT "creating" a Holocaust or exaggerating one. (This is what official history believes.) Sykewar was merely the military operation on hand and the best at filming. It was also just doing some propaganda emphasis, to push the horrible truth (skin lamps, etc.), and simply made mistakes. This is what official history says -- when it handles the subject at all.
b) Sykewar WAS "creating" or exaggerating a Holocaust. (This is what deniers believe.) Sykewar turned the deaths at these camps from late-War starvation and typhus deaths of workers, to deliberate starvation and killing, en mass throughout the war. This position has problems, but it does expose a lot of problems with the main line theories, too.
c) Sykewar was MOVING real death camps to non-death camps, by creating an impression out of the late-war typhus and starvation deaths at a few camps. Why? In this hypothesis, the Allies wanted to glean post-War benefits from secret camps where there WERE mass deaths. So camps which were transport camps with late-phase typhus infection and food shortage, were "recreated" by Sykewar as death camps.
So, Nico I return to your words:
Since Sykewar was involved, innocently or not, in the Holocaust revelations, therefore, your discovery of the 9/11 connection to Sykewar film companies is fascinating. So I quote you and thank you:
(... cont'd in next post ...)
Nico's discoveries:
ReplyDeleteAddendum ... On the morning of 9/11, Evan Fairbanks, a photographer, is in the studio of Trinity Television with the Archbishop of Wales, Rowan Williams, now the Archbishop of Canterbury, when he learned from the attacks.
Ironically he stated, though having his own camera, that "someone handed [him] a camera", while he was on his way to allegedly capture the pending 2nd attack on the Twin Towers.
As seen on some footage, he is shooting in front of the Burger King at the Corner of Church and Liberty.
His footage is later officially confiscated by the FBI.
It turns out, that is then copyrighted by a company,
which is ironically also linked to the rights for the filming of the 1945-liberation of Bergen-Belsen,
officially organized by the British Army Film and Photographic Unit (AFPU)
[set up in October 1941 ; http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=151223]
The name of the british photographer George Rodger, who became famous for capturing Bergen-Belsen, was George Rodger (1908 - 1995). After working with Life magazine from 1945-1947 he is being invited by his friend and famous photographer Robert Capa to be a co-founder member of Magnum Photos picture agency in 1947.---
[Fast Forward: As it happened a lot of photographers from the Magnum agency were *actually in New York on the Day of 9/11, including Paul Fusco, Thomas Hoepker, Steve McCurry, Susan Meiselas, Gilles Peress, Larry Towell and Alex Webb, because their annual meeting was the night before at the agency's office in Chelsea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Noahcs/Fairbanks_video ]
[Also see:]
http://books.google.com/books?id=hetrpvcBuuEC&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=filmed+the+liberation+of+Bergen-Belsen&source=bl&ots=rA0XVbDbAu&sig=EYyo6oN8-j-rT6jJB2pkKdwrxEI&hl=en&ei=K3nbSo20BYmj8Aaxlei2BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBkQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=filmed%20the%20liberation%20of%20Bergen-Belsen&f=false
[and]
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/George_Rodger
Also important to note (says Clare, not Nico):
ReplyDeleteThe Life Magazine connection and JFK's death are also linked through these Sykewar Allied people. (Vietnam War, Cold War and so on.)
any updates soon?
ReplyDeleteThis episode was bad, Nicos german accent combined with poor audio quality = impossible to hear what he says...
Looking forward to more episodes soon
The audio was impossible. Guess ill try and listen to Nick only site.
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